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San marzanos are pretty good … oops I shouldn’t have said that … now the words out and the geneticists are working hard to screw them up too
by cudgy 5y ago
San marzanos are pretty good … oops I shouldn’t have said that … now the words out and the geneticists are working hard to screw them up too
- jfengel 5y agoSan Marzanos are origin-protected in Italy, so if you get Italian San Marzano's they're legally limited in ways that promote quality. Unfortunately, there is a large black market in mis-labeled San Marzanos, so it's not a full guarantee of quality. But it's something that they're at least working on, rather than just giving up.
- phkahler 5y ago>> San Marzanos are origin-protected in Italy What does that mean? Protected under what laws?
- dagw 5y agoProtected under what laws? Protected under EU law. Only tomatoes of a specific type AND from the specific region can use the name "San Marzanos". Outside the EU I don't think there is anything stopping yoou from labling any random tomato as "San Marzano".
- riffraff 5y agoI may be wrong but I believe the canada-eu and eu-japan treaties also protect most denominations of origin (or rather, most by value rather than by specific items, but San Marzano should be included).
- KineticLensman 5y agoIt's a regulation [0] that says that products that are associated with a specific geographic location cannot be manufactured elsewhere and then passed off as the original. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_designation_of_origin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_designation_of_origi...
- oakesm9 5y agoThe EU is the main place that has these laws sorts of laws. I beleive that they will include it in trade deals so that it is enforceable in more of the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_traditional_specialities_in_the_European_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_t...
- dathinab 5y agoIt's like trademark but instead of: "only this company can decide who can use the trademark" It's like: "only if it's production fulfills certain criteria can you use the name" It's made as a consumer protection so that people can not just claim their product is this kind of "traditional" product when it isn't. Except that it's less used like a consumer protection as it's mainly used like a trademark. Controlled by a small group of people and directly profiting some regional government/economy. Most commonly it requires the main ingredient to come from a specific region (also e.g. used for Wine or Sect). EDIT: I kinda did throw different regulations into one explanation here.
- happymellon 5y agoIt's a shame that Cheddar doesn't have good protection. Real cheddar is full of flavour, slightly sour. Great stuff. But you can go to places like the US and cheddar is not cheddar and they should not be allowed to call that cheddar.
- adam-a 5y ago“Farmhouse cheddar” I believe is the protected term for cheese from Cheddar or nearby.
- happymellon 5y agoInteresting, I was not aware of this.
- dekhn 5y agoyou can get good cheddar in the US. Here is a widely available brand which is much better than average US cheddar https://www.tillamook.com/products/cheese/sharp-white-cheddar-block https://www.tillamook.com/products/cheese/sharp-white-chedda... aged cheddar is nom nom nom
- happymellon 5y agoI will have to try it next time over there, but please don't be offended when I say that based upon all the cheeses I have eaten over there I won't be holding my breath.
- philwelch 5y agoYou know how "champagne" is technically only champagne if the grapes are from the Champagne region of France, and otherwise it's just sparkling wine? That's a legal designation in the EU.
- dunham 5y agoThere are some counterfeit San Marzano out there too. Out on the west coast, I've been pretty happy with Muir Glen tomatoes.
- GcVmvNhBsU 5y agoNot to say you shouldn’t like Muir Glen, but this seems like the most appropriate place in this thread to drop this link: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/best-canned-tomatoes/ https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/best-canned-tomatoes...
- dunham 5y agoAlways interested in trying new options, thanks.