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i too stopped ordering tomatos for this reason some people mentioned looking for places that advertise using heirloom tomatos, but you still have to give them
by jareklupinski 5y ago
i too stopped ordering tomatos for this reason
some people mentioned looking for places that advertise using heirloom tomatos, but you still have to give them a good pinch of salt
would love to join a startup that re-engineers flavor back into commercially-viable crops
- titzer 5y agoJust move to Europe.
- dnzkw 5y agoSorry to tell you tomatoes are flavourless in Europe as well.
- watwut 5y agoYep. You have to grow own tomatoes to have good ones. Which is something only few people are willing and have option to do.
- hoseja 5y agoExcept the available seeds are probably decreasing in quality as well.
- bserge 5y agoIs there a market for good tasting tomato seeds? :D It's actually fascinating - I remember my grandmother scooping out the seeds out of vegetables and drying them, to be used next year. The villagers also traded them as apparently they had different varieties.
- dekhn 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burpee_Seeds_and_Plants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burpee_Seeds_and_Plants
- Vrondi 5y agoNo, there are places dedicated to preserving and making available heirloom seeds. Southern Exposure Seed Exchange: https://www.southernexposure.com/ https://www.southernexposure.com/ Seed Savers Exchange https://www.seedsavers.org/ https://www.seedsavers.org/ Open Source Seed Initiative partners with multiple seed exchanges: https://osseeds.org/ https://osseeds.org/
- titzer 5y agoI lived almost 7 years in Germany, and the average tomato at a supermarket was lightyears beyond the US. Then farmers markets are even better.
- tajustice1 5y agoI lived almost 7 years in the USA, and the average tomato at a supermarket was lightyears beyond Germany. Then farmers markets are even better.
- LAC-Tech 5y agoI am willing to participate in a blind taste test to resolve this issue.
- bserge 5y agoFunny enough, the further east you go, the better they taste. But tbf, only for a few months when the many small farmers grow them outdoors and sell them for unbelievably cheap. Rest of the time it's greenhouse tomatoes like everyone else.
- dagw 5y agoMost tomatoes here suck as well.
- jbverschoor 5y agoBulgaria, Greece
- yread 5y agoJust always get beefsteak tomatoes for burgers
- randerson 5y agoOr Africa. Each time I've visited I've remarked on how much more flavor things have.
- liotier 5y agoFrequent travels to Africa have made me incapable of swallowing pineapple and mangoes in Europe - they can't compete against fruit picked ripe.
- LAC-Tech 5y agoI've actually thought about this before. AFAICT, it's mostly a supply chain issue. In order to ship fruit long distance, they're harvested before they're ready, and artificially ripened in frozen containers. This lets them survive long journeys but kills a lot of the taste. So your company would end up being a traceability and logistics one - what's the nearest place to your customers that grow fruit, how can you prove it, and how can you get it in their hands. (Last two contracts were in artificial fruit ripening and supply chain traceability respectively).
- fatnoah 5y agoI lived in a city and had a roofdeck with full sun all day. Tomatos grew amazingly well up there, and the flavor of those ripe tomatoes was so amazing that we had them with nearly every meal. It also made buying tomatos from the grocery store totally impossible.
- AlanYx 5y agoI've noticed that full sun makes a surprisingly big difference, even with the naturally good tasting heirloom varieties (Cherokee purple, Brandywine, etc.). I wonder what the science there is. You'd think the slower ripening in partial shade (often a week or more slower) would result in a more complex tasting tomato, but perhaps the flavor compounds never reach a critical mass.
- Evidlo 5y agoGrape tomatoes in plastic containers are usually more flavorful because the seller doesn't have to ship them underripe to keep them from squishing.
- Ygg2 5y agoThey too are starting to taste more like cardboard.