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> Privacy and security. That's their stated rationale. I believe the poster was asking for their true rationale. I would guess it has much more to do with App

> Privacy and security. That's their stated rationale. I believe the poster was asking for their true rationale. I would guess it has much more to do with Apple wanting to exert control over webapps running on the phone. This makes sense considering how much money they make from native apps coming from the app store.

HatchedLake721 5y ago
That’s also the rationale why a lot of people pick Apple and use iPhones. It just works. It’s secure. You can’t break it. Your mom won’t call you on a weekend to fix some dodgy apps or uninstall malware.
- paxys 5y ago
  "iPhone shouldn't allow 3rd party keyboards. It's secure and just works." Then they added support for custom keyboards, and everything still works. "iPhone shouldn't allow changing the default email app. It's secure and just works." Then they started allowing you to change the email app, and everything still works. "iPhone shouldn't allow widgets on the home screen. It's secure and just works." Then they added widgets, and everything still works. Same with changing app icons, adblock extensions, dark mode, and so many other user-requested customizations. Every time they have made the phone more open, overall user experience has become better, not worse. People continue to say the same thing about browsers, locked app store etc., but one they they will open up as well and – guess what – iPhone will benefit from of it.
- oalae5niMiel7qu 5y ago
  Someone once asked me how to do a simple task with an iPhone— plug it into a Windows machine and copy pictures from it. It turned out to be impossible without installing iTunes on the PC. If you have an Android phone, Windows recognizes it as being a USB drive and everything just works. No shitty, bloated, slow, difficult-to-use, third-party app required.
matwood 5y ago
> That's their stated rationale. I believe the poster was asking for their true rationale. It can be both. Another example is that Apple believes native apps are the best end user experience. Generally I agree. Native apps also make Apple money by going through the store.
throw0101a 5y ago
Steve Jobs was talking about privacy since (at least) 2010: > Privacy means people know what they’re signing up for, in plain English, and repeatedly. That’s what it means. I’m an optimist, I believe people are smart. And some people want to share more data than other people do. Ask them. Ask them every time. Make them tell you to stop asking them if they get tired of your asking them. Let them know precisely what you’re going to do with their data. > That’s what we think. * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39iKLwlUqBo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39iKLwlUqBo What they're doing now seems to simply be a continuation of that thinking. (Sometimes better, sometimes worse.)

HatchedLake721 5y ago

That’s also the rationale why a lot of people pick Apple and use iPhones. It just works. It’s secure. You can’t break it. Your mom won’t call you on a weekend to fix some dodgy apps or uninstall malware.

paxys 5y ago
"iPhone shouldn't allow 3rd party keyboards. It's secure and just works." Then they added support for custom keyboards, and everything still works. "iPhone shouldn't allow changing the default email app. It's secure and just works." Then they started allowing you to change the email app, and everything still works. "iPhone shouldn't allow widgets on the home screen. It's secure and just works." Then they added widgets, and everything still works. Same with changing app icons, adblock extensions, dark mode, and so many other user-requested customizations. Every time they have made the phone more open, overall user experience has become better, not worse. People continue to say the same thing about browsers, locked app store etc., but one they they will open up as well and – guess what – iPhone will benefit from of it.
oalae5niMiel7qu 5y ago
Someone once asked me how to do a simple task with an iPhone— plug it into a Windows machine and copy pictures from it. It turned out to be impossible without installing iTunes on the PC. If you have an Android phone, Windows recognizes it as being a USB drive and everything just works. No shitty, bloated, slow, difficult-to-use, third-party app required.

matwood 5y ago

> That's their stated rationale. I believe the poster was asking for their true rationale. It can be both. Another example is that Apple believes native apps are the best end user experience. Generally I agree. Native apps also make Apple money by going through the store.

throw0101a 5y ago

Steve Jobs was talking about privacy since (at least) 2010: > Privacy means people know what they’re signing up for, in plain English, and repeatedly. That’s what it means. I’m an optimist, I believe people are smart. And some people want to share more data than other people do. Ask them. Ask them every time. Make them tell you to stop asking them if they get tired of your asking them. Let them know precisely what you’re going to do with their data. > That’s what we think. * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39iKLwlUqBo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39iKLwlUqBo What they're doing now seems to simply be a continuation of that thinking. (Sometimes better, sometimes worse.)