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Except she uses sex to promote her channel. Pretending the issue is women in STEM is dishonest. There are plenty of women who have STEM channels that are dress

Except she uses sex to promote her channel. Pretending the issue is women in STEM is dishonest. There are plenty of women who have STEM channels that are dressed in a dignified manor. (Xyla Foxlin for instance).

detaro 5y ago
Expecting that you conform to a standard about whatever some company thinks is "dignified" for women is a women in STEM issue. (along the lines of people trying to shame women in STEM about having the audacity to not look "professional" in all their social media pictures) And plenty non-tech influencers are playing up the "looking sexy" way more and somehow that isn't a problem.
- dekhn 5y ago
  I will generally defend the right of everybody to wear more or less whatever they want (I'm a t-shirt and shorts kinda guy) but I find that this particular youtuber goes out of her way to gain viewership through stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the primary topic of the videos. Personally, I find it distracting from the content (and her content is often interesting), but then again, I prefer videos of autistic woodworkers who rarely if ever talk (https://www.youtube.com/c/OlivierGomis/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/OlivierGomis/videos). I would say the same thing if it was a hunky guy in a bathing suit doing CNC. Either way, youtube should not demonetize her videos for dressing the way she does.
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  - oceanghost 5y ago
    Spot on. I'd like to pile on-- I can't remember where I picked this up, but, a way to evaluate visual communications for tone and intent is to watch the video with the sound off. Words often trip us up and tie up different parts of your brain. If you watch this gals channel with the sound off... It's prurient, in my opinion.
    - dekhn 5y ago
      My favorite woodworking channel, the guy never says a single word. He's barely on screen. Wearing clothes appropriate to making things. No facial expressions. I watch it with the sound off because the wood cutting noises bother me. I love it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML2nsBag3kk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML2nsBag3kk
      - oceanghost 5y ago
        I will give that a shot thank you.
- oceanghost 5y ago
  You're conflating several issues here. I don't know (or care) what other influencers do. YouTube is abhorrent, we all know that. However, Naomi Wu is trying to push the limit here. It is inevitable she bumped up against it. That side boob shot was completely staged and unnecessary. Did we need 20 seconds of her plugging in a cable? If I was the editor, I would be asking myself, "How is this sequence helping tell the story?" The answer is, its not. The thought I'd like to leave you with is this: Do you wear a bikini in your shop or when operating industrial equipment? Because I wear a leather apron.

detaro 5y ago

Expecting that you conform to a standard about whatever some company thinks is "dignified" for women is a women in STEM issue. (along the lines of people trying to shame women in STEM about having the audacity to not look "professional" in all their social media pictures) And plenty non-tech influencers are playing up the "looking sexy" way more and somehow that isn't a problem.

dekhn 5y ago
I will generally defend the right of everybody to wear more or less whatever they want (I'm a t-shirt and shorts kinda guy) but I find that this particular youtuber goes out of her way to gain viewership through stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the primary topic of the videos. Personally, I find it distracting from the content (and her content is often interesting), but then again, I prefer videos of autistic woodworkers who rarely if ever talk (https://www.youtube.com/c/OlivierGomis/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/OlivierGomis/videos). I would say the same thing if it was a hunky guy in a bathing suit doing CNC. Either way, youtube should not demonetize her videos for dressing the way she does.
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- oceanghost 5y ago
  Spot on. I'd like to pile on-- I can't remember where I picked this up, but, a way to evaluate visual communications for tone and intent is to watch the video with the sound off. Words often trip us up and tie up different parts of your brain. If you watch this gals channel with the sound off... It's prurient, in my opinion.
  - dekhn 5y ago
    My favorite woodworking channel, the guy never says a single word. He's barely on screen. Wearing clothes appropriate to making things. No facial expressions. I watch it with the sound off because the wood cutting noises bother me. I love it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML2nsBag3kk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML2nsBag3kk
    - oceanghost 5y ago
      I will give that a shot thank you.
oceanghost 5y ago
You're conflating several issues here. I don't know (or care) what other influencers do. YouTube is abhorrent, we all know that. However, Naomi Wu is trying to push the limit here. It is inevitable she bumped up against it. That side boob shot was completely staged and unnecessary. Did we need 20 seconds of her plugging in a cable? If I was the editor, I would be asking myself, "How is this sequence helping tell the story?" The answer is, its not. The thought I'd like to leave you with is this: Do you wear a bikini in your shop or when operating industrial equipment? Because I wear a leather apron.