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> We will have a process for those who cannot be vaccinated for medical or other reasons What might "other reasons" be?

by endianswap 5y ago

davidcbc 5y ago
Religious most likely
- bluedevil2k 5y ago
  Unfortunately, this loophole will negate the entire mandate.
  - abeyer 5y ago
    It will be abused, but hopefully at least some people might feel ashamed at such abuse and not go through with it when they have to do so on an individual basis.
  - bialpio 5y ago
    If I recall correctly, there are ways to ask for religious exemption to some of the requirements (e.g. vaccination when immigrating, answering "no" to an immigration question about willing to bear arms for the US), but they require establishing proof that you have been a member of a religious community that has rules conflicting with the mandate - it's not as easy as saying "it is so because I say so". Depending on how enforcement will happen, it may be possible to at least reduce the loophole.
  - paxys 5y ago
    Vaccination isn't an all or nothing game. Every single bit helps. Some people will always opt out one way or another, but that doesn't make the entire policy useless.
  - throwawayboise 5y ago
    No it won't. My employer mandated vaccines. Exceptions for sincere religious belief or documented medical reasons. I didn't want the vaccine but I wasn't going to lie about having a legitimate religious reason for it. Some people will, but most people wont. So I got the shot, but if I have any serious side effects I will certainly be contacting a personal injury attorney.
    - donkarma 5y ago
      Who do you plan on suing?
- endianswap 5y ago
  Hard to call something like this "mandatory" if you can just opt-out for non-verifiable personal reasons.
  - chitowneats 5y ago
    They use the word "cannot". What is the point of a mandate if not to compel the "will not" crowd?
- danans 5y ago
  Though very few religions oppose vaccines: https://slate.com/technology/2015/02/religious-exemption-for-vaccines-christian-scientists-catholics-and-dutch-reform-church.html https://slate.com/technology/2015/02/religious-exemption-for...
  - ErikVandeWater 5y ago
    It's really shaky to say "religions" don't oppose vaccines because religious interpretation (and personal interactions with their god(s)) is up to the individual. But it's all irrelevant in this case because Google is almost entirely an at-will employer. They can change the terms of the agreement at any time - take it or leave it.
    - amanaplanacanal 5y ago
      I suspect they might run into trouble if they started discriminating against specific religions.
- SlowBall 5y ago
  I respect more the position of an individual saying he doesn't want to get the vaccine because of his personal convictions than because his religions tells him so (although, to be clear, I think both are stupid positions). Hopefully Google will only allow exemptions based on health issues.
- abootstrapper 5y ago
  Political more likely.
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> We will have a process for those who cannot be vaccinated for medical or other reasons What might "other reasons" be?

davidcbc 5y ago

Religious most likely

bluedevil2k 5y ago
Unfortunately, this loophole will negate the entire mandate.
- abeyer 5y ago
  It will be abused, but hopefully at least some people might feel ashamed at such abuse and not go through with it when they have to do so on an individual basis.
- bialpio 5y ago
  If I recall correctly, there are ways to ask for religious exemption to some of the requirements (e.g. vaccination when immigrating, answering "no" to an immigration question about willing to bear arms for the US), but they require establishing proof that you have been a member of a religious community that has rules conflicting with the mandate - it's not as easy as saying "it is so because I say so". Depending on how enforcement will happen, it may be possible to at least reduce the loophole.
- paxys 5y ago
  Vaccination isn't an all or nothing game. Every single bit helps. Some people will always opt out one way or another, but that doesn't make the entire policy useless.
- throwawayboise 5y ago
  No it won't. My employer mandated vaccines. Exceptions for sincere religious belief or documented medical reasons. I didn't want the vaccine but I wasn't going to lie about having a legitimate religious reason for it. Some people will, but most people wont. So I got the shot, but if I have any serious side effects I will certainly be contacting a personal injury attorney.
  - donkarma 5y ago
    Who do you plan on suing?
endianswap 5y ago
Hard to call something like this "mandatory" if you can just opt-out for non-verifiable personal reasons.
- chitowneats 5y ago
  They use the word "cannot". What is the point of a mandate if not to compel the "will not" crowd?
danans 5y ago
Though very few religions oppose vaccines: https://slate.com/technology/2015/02/religious-exemption-for-vaccines-christian-scientists-catholics-and-dutch-reform-church.html https://slate.com/technology/2015/02/religious-exemption-for...
- ErikVandeWater 5y ago
  It's really shaky to say "religions" don't oppose vaccines because religious interpretation (and personal interactions with their god(s)) is up to the individual. But it's all irrelevant in this case because Google is almost entirely an at-will employer. They can change the terms of the agreement at any time - take it or leave it.
  - amanaplanacanal 5y ago
    I suspect they might run into trouble if they started discriminating against specific religions.
SlowBall 5y ago
I respect more the position of an individual saying he doesn't want to get the vaccine because of his personal convictions than because his religions tells him so (although, to be clear, I think both are stupid positions). Hopefully Google will only allow exemptions based on health issues.
abootstrapper 5y ago
Political more likely.

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