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Here's some perspective: If every single person in the US ran a computer consuming 100W on idle for an entire year, that would add up to around 300 terawatt ho

Here's some perspective: If every single person in the US ran a computer consuming 100W on idle for an entire year, that would add up to around 300 terawatt hours, or about one tenth of the US' electricity consumption that year.

thatguy0900 5y ago
Is that perspective? Refrigerators use like 200-300W an hour, and every family has one of those. And computers sleep when not in use. Should we prohibit more than one fridge per household?
- floatingatoll 5y ago
  Refrigerators had this kind of regulation applied to them decades ago, which is why they only use a restively necessary amount of power instead of the nightmare of waste that they used to be.
  - floatingatoll 5y ago
    *relatively
- Symbiote 5y ago
  This budget-brand fridge averages 17W over a year of use, and it only manages an "F" rating for energy use. The EU regulated refrigerator power use decades ago. https://www.beko.co.uk/tall-larder-fridge-lsp3671d-black-silver-white https://www.beko.co.uk/tall-larder-fridge-lsp3671d-black-sil...
- brnt 5y ago
  Our house uses about 4-5 kWh/day (excl. heating). Other than making sure we replace broken appliances with power efficient ones, we have not made any particular effort.
- errantspark 5y ago
  You're using the wrong units and you're off by more than an order of magnitude. A decent large fridge will use like 500Wh/day.
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teruakohatu 5y ago
That is an exaggeration. Computers sleeping with 11.5w of power draw are banned (100kw/y depending on configuration), not 100w. That is more or less pushing a high end graphics card for 20 minutes. So a drop in the bucket for a workstation or gaming pc. But regardless I agree these regulations are a good thing. These computers should be shipped in a low power configuration.
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  It's not like all the banned computers are barely over the threshold of ~10 watts. A lot of them using 50-100 watts to idle.
- chmod775 5y ago
  > Computers sleeping with 11.5w "Sleeping" is not the same as idle. > Computers sleeping with 11.5w of power draw are banned (100kw/y depending on configuration), not 100w. That is more or less pushing a high end graphics card for 20 minutes. So a drop in the bucket for a workstation or gaming pc. Even assuming those units are watt hours, I have no idea where you're going with this. Specifically the second sentence. What is a drop in the bucket for a workstation or gaming pc? Is what the power draw during sleep compared to total power draw, or are you comparing some of the other quantities you brought up? > But regardless I agree these regulations are a good thing. That's not what I was trying to say or did say. My post was supposed to give people an idea of the general magnitude we're dealing with.
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thatguy0900 5y ago

Is that perspective? Refrigerators use like 200-300W an hour, and every family has one of those. And computers sleep when not in use. Should we prohibit more than one fridge per household?

floatingatoll 5y ago
Refrigerators had this kind of regulation applied to them decades ago, which is why they only use a restively necessary amount of power instead of the nightmare of waste that they used to be.
- floatingatoll 5y ago
  *relatively
Symbiote 5y ago
This budget-brand fridge averages 17W over a year of use, and it only manages an "F" rating for energy use. The EU regulated refrigerator power use decades ago. https://www.beko.co.uk/tall-larder-fridge-lsp3671d-black-silver-white https://www.beko.co.uk/tall-larder-fridge-lsp3671d-black-sil...
brnt 5y ago
Our house uses about 4-5 kWh/day (excl. heating). Other than making sure we replace broken appliances with power efficient ones, we have not made any particular effort.
errantspark 5y ago
You're using the wrong units and you're off by more than an order of magnitude. A decent large fridge will use like 500Wh/day.

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teruakohatu 5y ago

That is an exaggeration. Computers sleeping with 11.5w of power draw are banned (100kw/y depending on configuration), not 100w. That is more or less pushing a high end graphics card for 20 minutes. So a drop in the bucket for a workstation or gaming pc. But regardless I agree these regulations are a good thing. These computers should be shipped in a low power configuration.

Dylan16807 5y ago
It's not like all the banned computers are barely over the threshold of ~10 watts. A lot of them using 50-100 watts to idle.
chmod775 5y ago
> Computers sleeping with 11.5w "Sleeping" is not the same as idle. > Computers sleeping with 11.5w of power draw are banned (100kw/y depending on configuration), not 100w. That is more or less pushing a high end graphics card for 20 minutes. So a drop in the bucket for a workstation or gaming pc. Even assuming those units are watt hours, I have no idea where you're going with this. Specifically the second sentence. What is a drop in the bucket for a workstation or gaming pc? Is what the power draw during sleep compared to total power draw, or are you comparing some of the other quantities you brought up? > But regardless I agree these regulations are a good thing. That's not what I was trying to say or did say. My post was supposed to give people an idea of the general magnitude we're dealing with.
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