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My ISP assigned my home an IPv6 address, but the net result is that I get captchas and bot checks endlessly. Even a simple grocery order on Walmart's website yi
by defaultname 5y ago
My ISP assigned my home an IPv6 address, but the net result is that I get captchas and bot checks endlessly. Even a simple grocery order on Walmart's website yields a dozen "Are you a robot" interruptions during a session.
- sfblah 5y agoYes. This. I tried using ipv6 and had to turn it off because of problems like this.
- FractalParadigm 5y agoWhere do you live? Here in Canada I've had native IPv6 through Rogers for the better part of 10 years and have never had problems in any way. In fact I have IPv4 straight up disabled on a few devices because v6 has been marginally faster in any test I've done. So far Reddit and HackerNews are the only two websites I regularly visit without v6 support (why?).
- defaultname 5y agoI (the guy two comments up) am in Canada through another provider. Whether the address range just isn't as well known and documented on whitelists, or one of my neighbors (IPv6 wise) runs botnets, there is no doubt that it is treated as much more suspicious traffic when I'm going through IPv6. And this is well known in the industry. The IPv4 world has had enormous mapping and trust ratings and understanding -- coupled with a scarcity that gives range owners or operators a higher incentive to care about what happens on it -- while a lot of people are still completely in the dark about IPv6 and still treat it like some scary unknown.
- oarsinsync 5y ago> The IPv4 world has had enormous mapping and trust ratings and understanding Indeed, and residential ranges are wholesale blocked from participating in various services, because of abuse through compromised hosts in residential networks. Budget cloud providers are wholesale blocked from participating in various services, either at thier local edge, or the remote edge, because of abuse through deliberate malicous customers and/or compromised hosts.
- sfblah 5y agoI'm in the SF Bay Area.
- saltminer 5y agoWhat ISP are you using? I have Google Fiber, and I can't say I get a ton of captchas (other than sites that have them for everyone, e.g. unauthenticated contact forms). The only downside to v6 was I had to get a new router because my old one couldn't route v6 at gigabit speeds (could easily do gigabit symmetric on v4 only, but topped out at 400/400 Mbps on dual-stack). Back when I had Spectrum (which was Charter in my area pre-merger), their v6 worked fine as well.
- sfblah 5y agoATT gigabit fiber.
- ikiris 5y agoI've used generic comcast IPv6 for years and never had this problem.
- p1mrx 5y agowalmart.com is IPv4-only (according to IPvFoo), so the captchas you're seeing can't possibly be related to your IPv6 address. If your ISP uses CGNAT for IPv4, then Walmart could fix the captcha problem by supporting IPv6, where your address is distinct from the bots.
- defaultname 5y agoI have never bothered digging into it, just noticed a pretty irritating rise in bot gates after enabling IPv6 through the router (though it could be entirely coincidental). I of course still have an IPv4 address. Walmart uses a litany of external services, presumably including real-time threat/bot analytics. For instance AdobeDTM, which does indeed serve via ipv6. It seems possible that IPv6 could be playing a part regardless of the status of the base site. These bot gates aren't at HTTP responses, but are in client interrogations and javascript triggers while interacting with the page.
- sedatk 5y ago> can't possibly be related to your IPv6 address. Many IPv6 addresses could be mapped to a single IPv4 gateway address, causing the trigger.