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wtf they want people who know coffeescript https://bubble.io/job?jid=4377554002 https://bubble.io/job?jid=4377554002

by animalgonzales 5y ago

arthurcolle 5y ago
I'll have you know that CoffeeScript is still widely used! \s cries in legacy code
- vosper 5y ago
  I'm right there with ya cries in not even Coffee version 2. One day maybe it'll be a lucrative niche for contractor legacy-maintenance warriors. That'll happen before I convince senior management that startups with React and Typescript can run rings around us, and that I can't find anyone fulltime who wants to work on our stack (or has even worked in not-React)... If anyone wants to chime in with their stories about using Decaffeinate, I'd be interested! https://github.com/decaffeinate/decaffeinate https://github.com/decaffeinate/decaffeinate
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - ironmagma 5y ago
    Got any stories about Coffeescript’s scope? I always suspected the way it works would cause more than a few fires.
  - newhouseb 5y ago
    Dropbox has a fairly exhaustive post about moving away from Coffeescript that involves decaffeinate: https://dropbox.tech/frontend/the-great-coffeescript-to-typescript-migration-of-2017 https://dropbox.tech/frontend/the-great-coffeescript-to-type.... I do hope for their own sake that Bubble looks at migrating away. At scale an untyped de facto abandoned 'language' is going to catch up to them sooner or later and limit their ability to iterate safely at scale. [Disclaimer: used to work at Dropbox, but had no involvement in this project other than massive appreciation for the amount of effort involved]
    - vosper 5y ago
      > I do hope for their own sake that Bubble looks at migrating away. At scale an untyped de facto abandoned 'language' is going to catch up to them sooner or later and limit their ability to iterate safely at scale. Looks like they founded in 2012, which is right on time for Coffeescript. So, there's a good chance it's not just Coffee - could well be Backbone, jQuery, Handlebars etc all mixed in there, too. You can definitely work React into a codebase like that (we have) but that could be a ton of work to get away from. Those codebases often ended up as un-unit-tested spaghetti. Codebases from that era are a tech-debt albatross. Sure, you can make them work, but at some point something's going to come along built with modern tooling and just move so much faster.
      - arthurcolle 5y ago
        Pretty ~easy~ legacy codebase migration gig if you're into that kinda work
  - dmix 5y ago
    Warriors would be a good name for anyone working on legacy code like that.
- runawaybottle 5y ago
  Coffeescript already had a lot of the features we use in es6, and one can argue it’s terser. What’s the misery about? Sounds like you guys were ahead of the curve.
bavell 5y ago
> AWS Postgres Redis Node Coffee-Script ES6 The rest of the stack looks good but yeah wtf indeed
winrid 5y ago
It's actually a really nice language. But yes, it was a fad that is mostly irrelevant now...
- heipei 5y ago
  I still use it daily since I find it so much easier to write and read than having my code littered with semicolons and braces, and it enforces correct whitespace. I do see its limitations, and I wish efforts to marry Coffeescript with Typescript would be more serious.
- sa46 5y ago
  It's really not. Coffeescript might be nice with fresh development and a small codebase but it's really bad when you're trying to figure out someone else's code.
  - winrid 5y ago
    That can be said of any loosely typed language. I agree that, overall, I'd always prefer something like TS or Java.
vmception 5y ago
tell me you’re a startup from 2012 without telling me you’re a startup from 2012
feoren 5y ago
Ah yes, one of the many languages where designers were like "you know what sucks about writing code? All that damn punctuation you write! It takes so long to type those curly braces. We're going to make a language where all our punctuation is invisible! Our code will be so much cleaner when all these important control-flow and context-determining marks are unable to be seen anymore!" Looking at you, Python, YAML, and Coffeescript.

wtf they want people who know coffeescript https://bubble.io/job?jid=4377554002 https://bubble.io/job?jid=4377554002

arthurcolle 5y ago

I'll have you know that CoffeeScript is still widely used! \s cries in legacy code

vosper 5y ago
I'm right there with ya cries in not even Coffee version 2. One day maybe it'll be a lucrative niche for contractor legacy-maintenance warriors. That'll happen before I convince senior management that startups with React and Typescript can run rings around us, and that I can't find anyone fulltime who wants to work on our stack (or has even worked in not-React)... If anyone wants to chime in with their stories about using Decaffeinate, I'd be interested! https://github.com/decaffeinate/decaffeinate https://github.com/decaffeinate/decaffeinate
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- ironmagma 5y ago
  Got any stories about Coffeescript’s scope? I always suspected the way it works would cause more than a few fires.
- newhouseb 5y ago
  Dropbox has a fairly exhaustive post about moving away from Coffeescript that involves decaffeinate: https://dropbox.tech/frontend/the-great-coffeescript-to-typescript-migration-of-2017 https://dropbox.tech/frontend/the-great-coffeescript-to-type.... I do hope for their own sake that Bubble looks at migrating away. At scale an untyped de facto abandoned 'language' is going to catch up to them sooner or later and limit their ability to iterate safely at scale. [Disclaimer: used to work at Dropbox, but had no involvement in this project other than massive appreciation for the amount of effort involved]
  - vosper 5y ago
    > I do hope for their own sake that Bubble looks at migrating away. At scale an untyped de facto abandoned 'language' is going to catch up to them sooner or later and limit their ability to iterate safely at scale. Looks like they founded in 2012, which is right on time for Coffeescript. So, there's a good chance it's not just Coffee - could well be Backbone, jQuery, Handlebars etc all mixed in there, too. You can definitely work React into a codebase like that (we have) but that could be a ton of work to get away from. Those codebases often ended up as un-unit-tested spaghetti. Codebases from that era are a tech-debt albatross. Sure, you can make them work, but at some point something's going to come along built with modern tooling and just move so much faster.
    - arthurcolle 5y ago
      Pretty ~easy~ legacy codebase migration gig if you're into that kinda work
- dmix 5y ago
  Warriors would be a good name for anyone working on legacy code like that.
runawaybottle 5y ago
Coffeescript already had a lot of the features we use in es6, and one can argue it’s terser. What’s the misery about? Sounds like you guys were ahead of the curve.

bavell 5y ago

> AWS Postgres Redis Node Coffee-Script ES6 The rest of the stack looks good but yeah wtf indeed

winrid 5y ago

It's actually a really nice language. But yes, it was a fad that is mostly irrelevant now...

heipei 5y ago
I still use it daily since I find it so much easier to write and read than having my code littered with semicolons and braces, and it enforces correct whitespace. I do see its limitations, and I wish efforts to marry Coffeescript with Typescript would be more serious.
sa46 5y ago
It's really not. Coffeescript might be nice with fresh development and a small codebase but it's really bad when you're trying to figure out someone else's code.
- winrid 5y ago
  That can be said of any loosely typed language. I agree that, overall, I'd always prefer something like TS or Java.

vmception 5y ago

tell me you’re a startup from 2012 without telling me you’re a startup from 2012

feoren 5y ago

Ah yes, one of the many languages where designers were like "you know what sucks about writing code? All that damn punctuation you write! It takes so long to type those curly braces. We're going to make a language where all our punctuation is invisible! Our code will be so much cleaner when all these important control-flow and context-determining marks are unable to be seen anymore!" Looking at you, Python, YAML, and Coffeescript.