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Spend a couple years in Italy. Spend a couple years in Syria. Come back and tell me which you prefer.
by hereforphone 5y ago
Spend a couple years in Italy. Spend a couple years in Syria. Come back and tell me which you prefer.
- ploika 5y agoThe one not at war obviously. Being in Europe didn't save Bosnia from being a pretty awful place to be in the 90s.
- tdsamardzhiev 5y agoOur part of Europe is... special.
- romwell 5y agoItaly wasn't the nicest place to be in during the 1940s, which would be a fair comparison as far as war-torn states go
- shadilay 5y agoMost people would still pick wartime Italy to wartime Syria.
- vagrantJin 5y agoWhy, so I can visit the Lamborghini factory and pizza restaurant? If you think my statement sounds like a shallow cliche then I would remind you that a group of people connected loosely by the idea of a state have cultural norms and traditions that make their little corner of the world unique...and Id say this surpasses the idea of materialism/unbounded consumption that undertones every conversation about "Europe Vs ...." measuring progress by how many cappucino cafes per square kilometer is a rather dull way to view the world at the very least.
- FredPret 5y agoWhen people talk about this they simply mean that cappuccino cafes are better than landmines, and that Italy beats Syria by that good vs bad metric. It's not an argument that we should replace all culture with a European facsimile, merely that some movement towards the proven model for success is needed.
- imtringued 5y agoThe difference is that cultural differences can be expressed in Europe. You can't do that in those contested regions because everyone wants to violently force their own cultural difference upon the rest of the population.
- ceilingcorner 5y agoThis might be relevant if world history began in 1900.