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Matrix is a protocol. There's a lot of tooling and applications to be made around said protocol, plenty of which could be sold on on a license basis, support fo

Matrix is a protocol. There's a lot of tooling and applications to be made around said protocol, plenty of which could be sold on on a license basis, support for enterprises etc. Matrix has a fantastic B2B potential. It's just early.

raxxorrax 5y ago
It should be mentioned that it also allows for distributed authentication providers (home servers). A very important feature and big tech strategy is not hiding this. But you can keep Google, Apple, Microsoft and similar completely out of the loop. The name of the protocol is very badly chosen though.
- scrollaway 5y ago
  Do you know if they have a mechanism for hosted servers with your own domain name yet? This feels like a big thing missing for wider enthusiast adoption.
  - raxxorrax 5y ago
    To be honest, I am no expert on Matrix, but I thought you can just host your own server on your own domain. That was the base assumption for my comment and I hope that is correct. They have a server reference component (synapse) that you could host anywhere I think.
    - scrollaway 5y ago
      Right but maybe you don't want to host your own server, but do want your own domain. Like emails.
      - karmanyaahm 5y ago
        That's not possible yet, see https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/neilalexander/identities/proposals/2787-portable-identities.md#goals https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/neilalexander/...
      - karmanyaahm 5y ago
        That's not possible yet, see this proposal https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/neilalexander/identities/proposals/2787-portable-identities.md#goals https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/neilalexander/...
        cvwright 5y ago
        The proposal that you linked is all about portable identities, tied to public keys. Is that really necessary for Element to host a server on a user's domain? I would have thought it would work just like outsourcing your web server or your email service. You generate a DNS name and point it at their IP address. Then they get a certificate and start serving traffic for your domain. Easy peasy.
      - gary-kim 5y ago
        Element's primary paid service is Element Matrix Services [1] which is exactly for that. They run a Matrix server for you, optionally on a domain that you provide. [1]: https://ems.element.io/ https://ems.element.io/
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  - curryst 5y ago
    Yeah, they've had that for a long time. I ran my own server on my own domain name a couple years ago or so.
rvz 5y ago
Exactly. The Matrix ecosystem is already used by governments in European countries and healthcare providers as well so that justifies the valuation of this fundraising round. The enterprise potential for the Matrix ecosystem which includes Element is almost like what GitLab has done but for Git services and much more. > The majority of the core team is now employed by Element, an independent company set up to hire the team and support Matrix's development. Other contributors are funded by their own employers or donate their own time to the project. At least they are not fully reliant on donations and they have a solid way of making money.
goodpoint 5y ago
That does not answer the question.

raxxorrax 5y ago

It should be mentioned that it also allows for distributed authentication providers (home servers). A very important feature and big tech strategy is not hiding this. But you can keep Google, Apple, Microsoft and similar completely out of the loop. The name of the protocol is very badly chosen though.

scrollaway 5y ago
Do you know if they have a mechanism for hosted servers with your own domain name yet? This feels like a big thing missing for wider enthusiast adoption.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  To be honest, I am no expert on Matrix, but I thought you can just host your own server on your own domain. That was the base assumption for my comment and I hope that is correct. They have a server reference component (synapse) that you could host anywhere I think.
  - scrollaway 5y ago
    Right but maybe you don't want to host your own server, but do want your own domain. Like emails.
    - karmanyaahm 5y ago
      That's not possible yet, see https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/neilalexander/identities/proposals/2787-portable-identities.md#goals https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/neilalexander/...
    - karmanyaahm 5y ago
      That's not possible yet, see this proposal https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/neilalexander/identities/proposals/2787-portable-identities.md#goals https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/neilalexander/...
      - cvwright 5y ago
        The proposal that you linked is all about portable identities, tied to public keys. Is that really necessary for Element to host a server on a user's domain? I would have thought it would work just like outsourcing your web server or your email service. You generate a DNS name and point it at their IP address. Then they get a certificate and start serving traffic for your domain. Easy peasy.
    - gary-kim 5y ago
      Element's primary paid service is Element Matrix Services [1] which is exactly for that. They run a Matrix server for you, optionally on a domain that you provide. [1]: https://ems.element.io/ https://ems.element.io/
- deleted 5y ago
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- curryst 5y ago
  Yeah, they've had that for a long time. I ran my own server on my own domain name a couple years ago or so.

rvz 5y ago

Exactly. The Matrix ecosystem is already used by governments in European countries and healthcare providers as well so that justifies the valuation of this fundraising round. The enterprise potential for the Matrix ecosystem which includes Element is almost like what GitLab has done but for Git services and much more. > The majority of the core team is now employed by Element, an independent company set up to hire the team and support Matrix's development. Other contributors are funded by their own employers or donate their own time to the project. At least they are not fully reliant on donations and they have a solid way of making money.

goodpoint 5y ago

That does not answer the question.