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Why Atlassian Products Suck?
For they are dog fooding.
- raxxorrax 5y agoThey are ok for what they intend to solve. They suck the fun out of development though and I don't want to work at companies that employ it anymore.
- mickamy 5y agoYeh? What is the problems they intend to solve?
- raxxorrax 5y agoIt can solve some project management issues for large scale teams. But it highly depends on how a company uses it. It is not mandatory to organize work though and I have only seen in companies you might not want to develop for.
- mickamy 5y agoThanks for sharing. My company ain't so big (less than 150), so I guess they just don't match to us.
- raxxorrax 5y agoIf all those are developers it might, although I don't recommend it. If not, I would search for alternatives. I was talking about Jira here, don't know too much about other products.
- mickamy 5y agoThanks. Jira might be OK for me too. All the web products by Atlassian (Jira, bitbucket, and confluences we are using) are soooooooo slow from Japan. And it is the 80% of my hate. Is it not from US or somewhere?
- Nextgrid 5y agoToo many JavaScript developers.
- mickamy 5y agoI just can't understand why they can hire many developers. I mean, who are paying enough money to Atlassian?
- moksly 5y agoBecause they are an industry in their own. Project management is only valuable if it puts out a net positive in terms of time invested/gained. With Atlassian there is a very real risk that it’s going to be a net negative that you can’t get away from because it’s slowly taken over your project management culture. What’s worse is that many talented developers simply don’t want to waste their time in the Atlassian product suite. This means you need to either offer them enough interesting work or enough money to put up with it. Project managers on the other hand likes the control, many even prefer the extensive tools to looser forms of project management. If you’re not careful this can quickly turn your organisation development culture into one that’s driven more by project managers than developers. That’s not to say that you can’t succeed with Atlassian products, because you can. It’s just that they hide the fact that managing software developers is incredibly hard, and that makes your organisation susceptible to believing that it isn’t. They also cleverly hide metrics regarding their own cost, both in terms of time and licensing, but that’s not exactly exclusive to Atlassian.
- mickamy 5y agoThanks. I think I could understand what u said partially. We simply do not need to manage talented developers, is my thought.