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You don't have to get rid of ALL cars. computer cars would be 99% enough. People somehow manage to get by without car in countries like Netherlands, and till ha

You don't have to get rid of ALL cars. computer cars would be 99% enough. People somehow manage to get by without car in countries like Netherlands, and till have they furniture moved around when they move.

bborud 5y ago
You are being dishonest here by implying people in the Netherlands do not have cars. Since you chose to make a claim without presenting any numbers I'll do it for you. The Netherlands has about 499 motor vehicles per 1000 people. That's about 38% fewer cars per capita than the US, but it still in the top 30 countries in the world and it is about 12% lower than the european average. Your statement is, at best, grossly misleading.
- eulenteufel 5y ago
  The comment is neither dishonest nor misleading. It is a fact that many people living in dense areas live a normal live without owning a car. GP was just responding to the problem of transporting large objects without owning a car and correctly stating that there is some amount of people getting by without car in the Netherlands. The solution is of course to just rent a transportation car for a few hours when you need it. I live in a high density area (Berlin) myself with 1.4 Million cars on 3.6 Million cars. Obviously living in Berlin without a car is possible without much hassle for lots of people. Claiming that doesn't mean that nobody in Berlin needs a car. But because most of the 3.6 Million Berliners manage to move and transport furniture sometimes, we can conclude that they definitely do not need it to transport their Ikea purchase.
  - bborud 5y ago
    The implication was that the Netherlands exemplified a country with a remarkably low number of cars per capita. The numbers do not support this assertion regardless of what GP might "feel". It is true that most urban dwellers do not need a car. But that point can be made without trying to amplify it with false assertions.
  - cwilkes 5y ago
    Of the 3.6M people living in Berlin how many are under 18? How many are couples that need only 1 car?
- vincnetas 5y ago
  i think youre to picky. i will simplify for you: there are people who move their belongings without owning a car. there are services for that. so car is really optional thing in above. montioned usecase.
  - chii 5y ago
    tell me a moving/delivery service which is available on demand, and can have it move where i want, when i want, at any time i want, and available to me 24/7, without prior notice. Because that's what a car is - you have the ability to move on demand. It's a step above rentals, because for rentals, you will have the possibility of not getting a car, or an unsuitable one.

bborud 5y ago

You are being dishonest here by implying people in the Netherlands do not have cars. Since you chose to make a claim without presenting any numbers I'll do it for you. The Netherlands has about 499 motor vehicles per 1000 people. That's about 38% fewer cars per capita than the US, but it still in the top 30 countries in the world and it is about 12% lower than the european average. Your statement is, at best, grossly misleading.

eulenteufel 5y ago
The comment is neither dishonest nor misleading. It is a fact that many people living in dense areas live a normal live without owning a car. GP was just responding to the problem of transporting large objects without owning a car and correctly stating that there is some amount of people getting by without car in the Netherlands. The solution is of course to just rent a transportation car for a few hours when you need it. I live in a high density area (Berlin) myself with 1.4 Million cars on 3.6 Million cars. Obviously living in Berlin without a car is possible without much hassle for lots of people. Claiming that doesn't mean that nobody in Berlin needs a car. But because most of the 3.6 Million Berliners manage to move and transport furniture sometimes, we can conclude that they definitely do not need it to transport their Ikea purchase.
- bborud 5y ago
  The implication was that the Netherlands exemplified a country with a remarkably low number of cars per capita. The numbers do not support this assertion regardless of what GP might "feel". It is true that most urban dwellers do not need a car. But that point can be made without trying to amplify it with false assertions.
- cwilkes 5y ago
  Of the 3.6M people living in Berlin how many are under 18? How many are couples that need only 1 car?
vincnetas 5y ago
i think youre to picky. i will simplify for you: there are people who move their belongings without owning a car. there are services for that. so car is really optional thing in above. montioned usecase.
- chii 5y ago
  tell me a moving/delivery service which is available on demand, and can have it move where i want, when i want, at any time i want, and available to me 24/7, without prior notice. Because that's what a car is - you have the ability to move on demand. It's a step above rentals, because for rentals, you will have the possibility of not getting a car, or an unsuitable one.