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What sympathetic media? There are none, except maybe for Breitbart? Look at what happened with James Damore. His memo didn't contain the incriminating ideas or

What sympathetic media? There are none, except maybe for Breitbart? Look at what happened with James Damore. His memo didn't contain the incriminating ideas or language the people who wanted to get rid of him would have needed, so they simply invented it, claiming his memo said women programmers are worse at it than men when it said no such thing. Media blanketed the news with this false claim even though the document was public and anyone could download and read it for themselves. The only news outlet I saw cover this story correctly was Breitbart, who also ended up as a result with lots of leaked screenshots from disaffected Googlers talking about internal racial and sexual discrimination against "white" (+Asian) men.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> His memo didn't contain the incriminating ideas or language the people who wanted to get rid of him would have needed That's...not how at-will employment works.
- native_samples 5y ago
  Needed to justify the termination on ethical grounds, not legal. I thought that was obvious from context.
raxxorrax 5y ago
I don't think Damore would have been bad with women, I believe his attempts were genuine for that matter. They way he handled publication was probably too much for the company and surely for a certain public out for blood. For any public statement you need the message to be easily digestible.
- native_samples 5y ago
  He never published anything publicly. His essay was written internally and then deliberately leaked by the sort of people who want to punish any ideological dissent. And it worked: the leakers were it seems never found, and Damore was fired, despite that his essay was written in response to a diversity training workshop asking for feedback.
  - LegitShady 5y ago
    So you’re saying his opponents leaked it to sympathetic media?
    - username90 5y ago
      Media, including big tech, is not sympathetic of men's issues. This is because male users are worth significantly less as advertisement targets, they would rather lose 3 male users over 1 female user. Its just pure capitalism and not inherent bias, but still it means that you wont find any media that cares much about your issues because they would rather not alienate their lucrative female users.
    - native_samples 5y ago
      Yes. That's exactly what happened.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> His memo didn't contain the incriminating ideas or language the people who wanted to get rid of him would have needed That's...not how at-will employment works.

native_samples 5y ago
Needed to justify the termination on ethical grounds, not legal. I thought that was obvious from context.

raxxorrax 5y ago

I don't think Damore would have been bad with women, I believe his attempts were genuine for that matter. They way he handled publication was probably too much for the company and surely for a certain public out for blood. For any public statement you need the message to be easily digestible.

native_samples 5y ago
He never published anything publicly. His essay was written internally and then deliberately leaked by the sort of people who want to punish any ideological dissent. And it worked: the leakers were it seems never found, and Damore was fired, despite that his essay was written in response to a diversity training workshop asking for feedback.
- LegitShady 5y ago
  So you’re saying his opponents leaked it to sympathetic media?
  - username90 5y ago
    Media, including big tech, is not sympathetic of men's issues. This is because male users are worth significantly less as advertisement targets, they would rather lose 3 male users over 1 female user. Its just pure capitalism and not inherent bias, but still it means that you wont find any media that cares much about your issues because they would rather not alienate their lucrative female users.
  - native_samples 5y ago
    Yes. That's exactly what happened.