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The EU + USA together hold a much bigger purse so...

raxxorrax 5y ago
The EU? The father or Ursula von der Leyen did a false flag against some imprisoned RAF members. They bombed a prison and tried to blame it on the inmates and accomplices. The US is a special needs kid regarding human rights if you take a look at Guantanamo. So what should I expect about the integrity of justice here?
- zmix 5y ago
  > The EU? The father or Ursula von der Leyen did a false flag against some imprisoned RAF members. They bombed a prison and tried to blame it on the inmates and accomplices. Could you tell me, where to find more information about this? Thanks!
  - GregarianChild 5y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celle_Hole https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celle_Hole https://magazin.spiegel.de/EpubDelivery/spiegel/pdf/13518912 https://magazin.spiegel.de/EpubDelivery/spiegel/pdf/13518912
  - raxxorrax 5y ago
    It is about what the other user linked. The responsible minister was Ernst Albrecht (CDU), the father of Ursula von der Leyen. Not saying she should be responsible for what her father did, but it is noteworthy because her career was mostly being his daughter.
- colinb 5y ago
  So we're holding Ursula von Der Leyen responsible for her father's actions now? Or is it that his immorality is genetically transmissible and she too is definitely a bad person?
  - corty 5y ago
    In her case: Der Apfel faellt nicht weit vom Stamm. She is a chip of the old block. One of the things that got her famous in Germany was her persistent lying and schemeing, including "think of the children", including showing actual child porn to journalists[0], to get her internet censorship and surveillance scheme passed. Definitely her father's footsteps. [0] https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/blockade-illegaler-sites-von-der-leyen-laesst-kinderpornografie-aus-dem-netz-filtern-a-601517.html https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/blockade-illegaler-sites...
  - nix23 5y ago
    >she too is definitely a bad person Well yes she is a pretty bad person, remember McKinsey? Internet Censor at ISP level? Trying to buy Drones with weapons on board? The probably buy d dissertation for her Dr. Med?
  - raxxorrax 5y ago
    Keep your genetic straw man, it would just be the usual gang crime.
- warlog 5y ago
  Special needs kids usually cause a lot less harm.
- bigbizisverywyz 5y ago
  >So what should I expect about the integrity of justice here? You could maybe ask the other 26 nations how they might see things? Remember the EU is not just 1 lady who had a bad daddy. And her tenure is not forever. The same is also true of the US, every 4 years the whole country gets to vote for either the worst of their instincts, or for the person that embodies a higher ideal. So a lot can change over the next few decades. I'm with C. Hitchens, a short term pessimist, but a long term optimist :)

The EU? The father or Ursula von der Leyen did a false flag against some imprisoned RAF members. They bombed a prison and tried to blame it on the inmates and accomplices. The US is a special needs kid regarding human rights if you take a look at Guantanamo. So what should I expect about the integrity of justice here?

zmix 5y ago
> The EU? The father or Ursula von der Leyen did a false flag against some imprisoned RAF members. They bombed a prison and tried to blame it on the inmates and accomplices. Could you tell me, where to find more information about this? Thanks!
- GregarianChild 5y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celle_Hole https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celle_Hole https://magazin.spiegel.de/EpubDelivery/spiegel/pdf/13518912 https://magazin.spiegel.de/EpubDelivery/spiegel/pdf/13518912
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  It is about what the other user linked. The responsible minister was Ernst Albrecht (CDU), the father of Ursula von der Leyen. Not saying she should be responsible for what her father did, but it is noteworthy because her career was mostly being his daughter.
colinb 5y ago
So we're holding Ursula von Der Leyen responsible for her father's actions now? Or is it that his immorality is genetically transmissible and she too is definitely a bad person?
- corty 5y ago
  In her case: Der Apfel faellt nicht weit vom Stamm. She is a chip of the old block. One of the things that got her famous in Germany was her persistent lying and schemeing, including "think of the children", including showing actual child porn to journalists[0], to get her internet censorship and surveillance scheme passed. Definitely her father's footsteps. [0] https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/blockade-illegaler-sites-von-der-leyen-laesst-kinderpornografie-aus-dem-netz-filtern-a-601517.html https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/blockade-illegaler-sites...
- nix23 5y ago
  >she too is definitely a bad person Well yes she is a pretty bad person, remember McKinsey? Internet Censor at ISP level? Trying to buy Drones with weapons on board? The probably buy d dissertation for her Dr. Med?
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  Keep your genetic straw man, it would just be the usual gang crime.
warlog 5y ago
Special needs kids usually cause a lot less harm.
bigbizisverywyz 5y ago
>So what should I expect about the integrity of justice here? You could maybe ask the other 26 nations how they might see things? Remember the EU is not just 1 lady who had a bad daddy. And her tenure is not forever. The same is also true of the US, every 4 years the whole country gets to vote for either the worst of their instincts, or for the person that embodies a higher ideal. So a lot can change over the next few decades. I'm with C. Hitchens, a short term pessimist, but a long term optimist :)