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Neither. The concept of "spreading democracy" has always been propaganda, and the US has not faced harsher standards.
by boomboomsubban 5y ago
Neither. The concept of "spreading democracy" has always been propaganda, and the US has not faced harsher standards.
- wutbrodo 5y agoI mean ok, but the parent commenter's claim is that the US is _losing_ standing as a spreader of democracy. This is the premise of my question, and I'm not really interested in a random third-party's view that the premise is wrong, especially when it's as trite a view as this one.
- boomboomsubban 5y agoYou are asking if people think the propaganda has become less true. It's a nonsense question, as if people ever think the US is/was spreading democracy the propaganda has worked.
- WalterBright 5y agoThe US brought democracy to Germany and Japan after WW2.
- cartoonworld 5y agoGermany was a republic with a constitution and elected leaders after 1918. Kaiser Wilhelm II took power after Bismark, and abdicated at the end of the first war. Wilhelm died in 1941. Bismarck unified Germany in the latter 1800's as a constitutional federation with suffrage and elected legislatures, I don't know the fine details except it was some form of confederation and is considered a constitutional monarchy with elected legislature.
- WalterBright 5y agoGermany had 12 years of dictatorship from 1933 to 1945.
- einpoklum 5y agoAnd most elements of the regime, excluding a few people at the very top, remained in place after 1945. Like the judiciary, municipal authorities, government bureaucracies etc. - and of course the large company owners.
- lmilcin 5y agoFor a guy who can cite names and dates you show very weak understanding of history. Technically both Belarus and Russia area also democratic countries. Both countries have this written in their constitutions.
- fit2rule 5y agoGermany is still not a proper democracy - not for as long as its intelligence services answer to the CIA.
- raxxorrax 5y agoThat is true and one of the few successful examples. I wonder if the cold war played a role here, there was an honest ambition not to let Germany fall to the communits.
- boomboomsubban 5y agoThe US propped up a war criminal in Japan ensuring fifty years of one party rule.