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Do you still need a fb login to use oculus ?

by Irishsteve 5y ago

kungito 5y ago
Yes, you can make a fake account just for oculus. So?
- mnd999 5y ago
  Do you not risk being banned for being a fake account if the Facebook AI doesn’t think you’re social mediaing enough?
  - SirHound 5y ago
    Yeah you do.
    - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
      No you don't (officially), I also use a throwaway account and had no issues. There were a few unrelated isolated incidents in the beginning that were heavily publicized by the media but in the end you're at the mercy of the same AI ban bots just like with YouTube, Google or any other big platform so you have the same chance of finding yourself locked out if your behavior trips up the algorithm.
      - flohofwoe 5y ago
        I recently created a throwaway FB account for "work stuff", and the amount of spam mail I'm getting now each day from Facebook to "engage" is shocking. Also: I didn't register the account with my real name and a different email address, yet Facebook magically featured out who I am and is sending out invites to the friends on my (long dead) real Facebook account. It's all creepy AF.
  - KaiserPro 5y ago
    I've been using a "fake" account. I don't do anything dodgy with it, and my name is mostly the same as the credit card. They are much more reluctant to kill a dormant account if you attach it to hardware.
- blensor 5y ago
  Oculus does sell a version without the login restriction for around $700
  - MikusR 5y ago
    Iirc those still need a Facebook for work account.
    - moron4hire 5y ago
      Only to manage the fleet of devices. The users of the devices do not need a Facebook account. In fact, there isn't even anywhere to enter one.
  - Bigpet 5y ago
    those are locked out of any apps on the Occulus store though, right?
    - moron4hire 5y ago
      They are enterprise licensed headsets. You're not just going to walk up to Facebook and say "here's $800, give me a headset with no pre-installed apps". You have to get approval to get access to Oculus for Business, then you purchase the headsets through a partner company (CDW, in my case). But when you eventually get everyone to wake up long enough, concurrently, to do their jobs, yes, you essentially get A Quest 2 with no apps other than the browser installed. Is pretty cool. The browser is built on Chromium, so it has the full WebXR API. I have a WebXR/WebRTC app that I've built for my company. We have a fleet of 15 headsets right now. We send them to our students taking our foreign language classes and they use them to practice with their instructor in 360 photo environments of popular tourist places in their target country.
      - neither_color 5y ago
        >We send them to our students taking our foreign language classes and they use them to practice with their instructor in 360 photo environments of popular tourist places in their target country. Man this is actually my number one idea for a VR app: VR language learning for more powerful immersion. Looks like I'm not the first to think of this I'd better hurry. Imagine you're learning French and when you get to the word "voiture" a car materalizes in front of you, when you get to the word "cheval" you're suddenly riding a horse, etc. Now apply some SRS soup and you're learning vocab in an unforgettable way. I have no idea where to start but I want this.
- Rebelgecko 5y ago
  Since that's a violation of the TOS, you're taking a bit of a risk with that approach
bbarnett 5y ago
Was about to buy one to play with, especially as they have new hardware (to me, I wasn't paying attention). Then I noticed this on the terms of service when clicking 'buy': Requires wireless internet access and a Facebook account. And, uh, heh... no. Just no. I don't even need a Sony/PS account to use a playstation, and at least a PS account has to do with, you know, the playstation. Meanwhile, Facebook has to do with a bazillion other things, has all this baggage, I've never had and ever ever want an account, and... what? I'm going to get an account for a barely usable piece of expensive hardware? No.
theptip 5y ago
Yup. Seems like they walked back the forced migration for existing users, but new Oculus users must sign up with FB it seems. https://www.oculus.com/blog/facebook-accounts-on-oculus/?locale=en_US https://www.oculus.com/blog/facebook-accounts-on-oculus/?loc...
- amelius 5y ago
  How do you lend the device to your friends? Do you log out and let your friends log in? Can you sell the device without your personal ID on it?
  - potatolicious 5y ago
    I have an Oculus Quest 2 - it's really not intended to be multi-user (even within a single household), which seems like a big miss. The answer to both of those questions is: "hit the factory reset button in the Settings menu" which blows away any and all state. That's realistic for selling the device but not really for lending it.
    - chaostheory 5y ago
      Facebook has allowed multiple account logins on a single headset for a few months now.

Do you still need a fb login to use oculus ?

kungito 5y ago

Yes, you can make a fake account just for oculus. So?

mnd999 5y ago
Do you not risk being banned for being a fake account if the Facebook AI doesn’t think you’re social mediaing enough?
- SirHound 5y ago
  Yeah you do.
  - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
    No you don't (officially), I also use a throwaway account and had no issues. There were a few unrelated isolated incidents in the beginning that were heavily publicized by the media but in the end you're at the mercy of the same AI ban bots just like with YouTube, Google or any other big platform so you have the same chance of finding yourself locked out if your behavior trips up the algorithm.
    - flohofwoe 5y ago
      I recently created a throwaway FB account for "work stuff", and the amount of spam mail I'm getting now each day from Facebook to "engage" is shocking. Also: I didn't register the account with my real name and a different email address, yet Facebook magically featured out who I am and is sending out invites to the friends on my (long dead) real Facebook account. It's all creepy AF.
- KaiserPro 5y ago
  I've been using a "fake" account. I don't do anything dodgy with it, and my name is mostly the same as the credit card. They are much more reluctant to kill a dormant account if you attach it to hardware.
blensor 5y ago
Oculus does sell a version without the login restriction for around $700
- MikusR 5y ago
  Iirc those still need a Facebook for work account.
  - moron4hire 5y ago
    Only to manage the fleet of devices. The users of the devices do not need a Facebook account. In fact, there isn't even anywhere to enter one.
- Bigpet 5y ago
  those are locked out of any apps on the Occulus store though, right?
  - moron4hire 5y ago
    They are enterprise licensed headsets. You're not just going to walk up to Facebook and say "here's $800, give me a headset with no pre-installed apps". You have to get approval to get access to Oculus for Business, then you purchase the headsets through a partner company (CDW, in my case). But when you eventually get everyone to wake up long enough, concurrently, to do their jobs, yes, you essentially get A Quest 2 with no apps other than the browser installed. Is pretty cool. The browser is built on Chromium, so it has the full WebXR API. I have a WebXR/WebRTC app that I've built for my company. We have a fleet of 15 headsets right now. We send them to our students taking our foreign language classes and they use them to practice with their instructor in 360 photo environments of popular tourist places in their target country.
    - neither_color 5y ago
      >We send them to our students taking our foreign language classes and they use them to practice with their instructor in 360 photo environments of popular tourist places in their target country. Man this is actually my number one idea for a VR app: VR language learning for more powerful immersion. Looks like I'm not the first to think of this I'd better hurry. Imagine you're learning French and when you get to the word "voiture" a car materalizes in front of you, when you get to the word "cheval" you're suddenly riding a horse, etc. Now apply some SRS soup and you're learning vocab in an unforgettable way. I have no idea where to start but I want this.
Rebelgecko 5y ago
Since that's a violation of the TOS, you're taking a bit of a risk with that approach

bbarnett 5y ago

Was about to buy one to play with, especially as they have new hardware (to me, I wasn't paying attention). Then I noticed this on the terms of service when clicking 'buy': Requires wireless internet access and a Facebook account. And, uh, heh... no. Just no. I don't even need a Sony/PS account to use a playstation, and at least a PS account has to do with, you know, the playstation. Meanwhile, Facebook has to do with a bazillion other things, has all this baggage, I've never had and ever ever want an account, and... what? I'm going to get an account for a barely usable piece of expensive hardware? No.

theptip 5y ago

Yup. Seems like they walked back the forced migration for existing users, but new Oculus users must sign up with FB it seems. https://www.oculus.com/blog/facebook-accounts-on-oculus/?locale=en_US https://www.oculus.com/blog/facebook-accounts-on-oculus/?loc...

amelius 5y ago
How do you lend the device to your friends? Do you log out and let your friends log in? Can you sell the device without your personal ID on it?
- potatolicious 5y ago
  I have an Oculus Quest 2 - it's really not intended to be multi-user (even within a single household), which seems like a big miss. The answer to both of those questions is: "hit the factory reset button in the Settings menu" which blows away any and all state. That's realistic for selling the device but not really for lending it.
  - chaostheory 5y ago
    Facebook has allowed multiple account logins on a single headset for a few months now.