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AWS Egress - $0.09/GB Azure Egress - $0.0875/GB GCP Egress - $0.11/GB Alibaba Egress - $0.123 Interesting that no mention is made of the other cloud provide

AWS Egress - $0.09/GB Azure Egress - $0.0875/GB GCP Egress - $0.11/GB Alibaba Egress - $0.123 Interesting that no mention is made of the other cloud providers pricing here when AWS isn't even the most expensive egress...Oh! I wonder if it is because Cloudflare has data transfer agreements with GCP, Azure, and Alibaba! But that would mean this is a shoddy hit piece to strong arm AWS into an agreement with them. Nonsense, I'm sure Cloudflare would never do that... Edit: I've removed claims about Cloudfront's pricing since it isn't actually clear what they charge for egress and seems to vary on a number of factors. Thanks Dylan16807 for pointing that out.

fireant 5y ago
The link you have submitted is about Workers however, which is a Cloudflare's function-as-a-service solution. I could not find egress pricing for general bandwidth that does not go through Workers last time I tried. Could you please point me to a document that says CF general egress pricing is $0.045 now?
- andrewguenther 5y ago
  The original version of my post called out that you cannot actually see Cloudflare's pricing without an account, that link was the best I could find. Funny to be calling out their competitors for pricing when they won't even publish theirs...
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/platform/pricing https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/platform/pricing Edit: I was quoting a 100MB per request limit but that's actually ingress, egress is 512MB/unlimited so if you calculate that out it would be an even smaller fraction of a penny per terabyte for bundled workers.
  - NicoJuicy 5y ago
    Cloudflare doesn't do pricing for bandwidth, as far as I know. https://www.quora.com/How-can-Cloudflare-not-charge-for-bandwidth-for-their-CDN-capabilities https://www.quora.com/How-can-Cloudflare-not-charge-for-band...
  - Wallacy 5y ago
    In this case is because they actually does not charge bandwidth. I have few services on CF and never paid a dime for bandwidth. Even on free plan I push few terabytes.
xtracto 5y ago
Oracle cloud egress goes from $0.0085 USD to $0.025 USD (depending on the zone) and the first 10 TB are free. It's quite good; too bad their cloud services are quite bad.
- art-vandelay 5y ago
  Bad in what sense? Curious because I just signed up for OCI a few hours ago.
  - jaytaylor 5y ago
    My takeaway as a daily user of OCI and an AWS / GCP customer: Oracle cloud has proven to be refreshingly nice and easy to work with and develop + manage services on. AWS is fine but can be costly and has technical baggage. The cluster mess that is GCP is by far the most frustrating. For starters, the UI is indefensibly terrible. Curious to know what specific complaints or grievances about OCI folks have. Disclaimer: I currently work at Oracle, but don't speak on behalf of the company in any capacity. This is all my personal opinion and honest experience. YMMV and that's okay! p.s. The OCI "free-forever" VMs are pretty generous- 2x instances with 1GB ram, much higher network and compute performance compared to GCP free-tier.
    - dougmoscrop 5y ago
      Honestly, looking at Oracle Cloud, I think the best thing they could do is spin off and just completely remove any trace of the name Oracle. You have some absolutely fantastic products that are being criminally neglected because people won't go anywhere near the name, and can you blame them?
      - ksec 5y ago
        I dont even think they need to Spin it off. They could reform it as subsidiary and have a different company name.
    - ithkuil 5y ago
Dylan16807 5y ago
What are you on about? A big chunk of the article is about the bandwidth alliance, and your number for Cloudflare is not egress. Edit: And in particular, if you are using normal cloudflare workers, not the "workers unbound" that are "intended for applications that need long execution times", then the price is $0.50 per million requests and $0 for bandwidth.
- andrewguenther 5y ago
  Thanks for pointing this out, I've gone ahead and removed mentions of Cloudflare's pricing from my comment since I can't find an authoritative source for their egress pricing in their docs. The point general point still stands, all cloud provider egress costs suck and Cloudflare is just trying to strongarm AWS into entering a bandwidth agreement with them.
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    Honestly I'd love it even if AWS just joined into the bandwidth alliance. Then I could store backups in glacier but have several options to retrieve it at a reasonable price.
  - NicoJuicy 5y ago
    No it doesn't. Since the article mentions that Amazon is charging egress pricing for egress data that doesn't go though the public internet, which is much cheaper and isn't egress in the first place. Except at Amazon/AWS ofc.
MisterPea 5y ago
/thread Thanks for this. I was trying to find a simple comparison of pricing on the article but only found an overly simple water analogy.
partiallypro 5y ago
I don't know about GCP but Azure's egress costs go down as you use more and more dropping as low as .05/GB, and if you are using Cloudflare on top of it the costs go down even more. Then don't forget ingress fees, Azure charges nothing, while AWS charges ~.015/GB in. Since a lot of protocols rely on heavy ingress as well that starts to add up. AWS is notoriously expensive in bandwidth costs, that's nothing new.
corlinp 5y ago
I took the article as pointing out that they specifically do not charge AWS for data transfer to CloudFlare and yet AWS charges full-price for bandwidth while other clouds do not. That's not a shoddy hit-piece, it's exposing some predatory business practices. Of course it'll benefit CloudFlare, but that doesn't mean it's a disingenuous article.
laurencerowe 5y ago
If you're doing a lot of egress look into AWS Direct Connect (I think GCP has an equivalent too.) That gets you down to $0.02/GB
christophilus 5y ago
Digital Ocean: 0.01/GB Netcup: basically free (40TB is baked into the VPS price) I think it’s safe to say that all of the major providers egregiously overcharge for bandwidth.
- Rd6n6 5y ago
  I’ve never heard of Netcup. How are they compared to say DO?
NicoJuicy 5y ago
The article is about egress data that doesn't go over the public internet, which is much cheaper. Other cloud companies don't use the same price for that, while Amazon does. With an markup...
0xy 5y ago
Cloudflare does multiple petabytes of traffic on their enterprise plan for ~$10k/m. Disclosure: $NET shareholder
neop1x 5y ago
Yes, most people think about Azure/GCP/AWS/Alibaba only. But there are many others, smaller and bigger providers. For example: Scaleway (small, in Europe) is like DO: Egress cost is part of the instance price Oracle cloud: Egress cost depends on the monthly usage and and the destination country (free of charge up into $0.050 USD per GB per month) [1] Egress shouldn't be as expensive as it is in major clouds. [1] https://www.oracle.com/cloud/networking/networking-pricing.html https://www.oracle.com/cloud/networking/networking-pricing.h...
chaz6 5y ago
On that basis, I am saving $90,000 a year by having a dedicated server from Hetzner (running a Tor relay). If I could afford that, I would pay off my mortgage in a couple of years.

fireant 5y ago

The link you have submitted is about Workers however, which is a Cloudflare's function-as-a-service solution. I could not find egress pricing for general bandwidth that does not go through Workers last time I tried. Could you please point me to a document that says CF general egress pricing is $0.045 now?

andrewguenther 5y ago
The original version of my post called out that you cannot actually see Cloudflare's pricing without an account, that link was the best I could find. Funny to be calling out their competitors for pricing when they won't even publish theirs...
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/platform/pricing https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/platform/pricing Edit: I was quoting a 100MB per request limit but that's actually ingress, egress is 512MB/unlimited so if you calculate that out it would be an even smaller fraction of a penny per terabyte for bundled workers.
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  Cloudflare doesn't do pricing for bandwidth, as far as I know. https://www.quora.com/How-can-Cloudflare-not-charge-for-bandwidth-for-their-CDN-capabilities https://www.quora.com/How-can-Cloudflare-not-charge-for-band...
- Wallacy 5y ago
  In this case is because they actually does not charge bandwidth. I have few services on CF and never paid a dime for bandwidth. Even on free plan I push few terabytes.

xtracto 5y ago

Oracle cloud egress goes from $0.0085 USD to $0.025 USD (depending on the zone) and the first 10 TB are free. It's quite good; too bad their cloud services are quite bad.

art-vandelay 5y ago
Bad in what sense? Curious because I just signed up for OCI a few hours ago.
- jaytaylor 5y ago
  My takeaway as a daily user of OCI and an AWS / GCP customer: Oracle cloud has proven to be refreshingly nice and easy to work with and develop + manage services on. AWS is fine but can be costly and has technical baggage. The cluster mess that is GCP is by far the most frustrating. For starters, the UI is indefensibly terrible. Curious to know what specific complaints or grievances about OCI folks have. Disclaimer: I currently work at Oracle, but don't speak on behalf of the company in any capacity. This is all my personal opinion and honest experience. YMMV and that's okay! p.s. The OCI "free-forever" VMs are pretty generous- 2x instances with 1GB ram, much higher network and compute performance compared to GCP free-tier.
  - dougmoscrop 5y ago
    Honestly, looking at Oracle Cloud, I think the best thing they could do is spin off and just completely remove any trace of the name Oracle. You have some absolutely fantastic products that are being criminally neglected because people won't go anywhere near the name, and can you blame them?
    - ksec 5y ago
      I dont even think they need to Spin it off. They could reform it as subsidiary and have a different company name.
  - ithkuil 5y ago

Dylan16807 5y ago

What are you on about? A big chunk of the article is about the bandwidth alliance, and your number for Cloudflare is not egress. Edit: And in particular, if you are using normal cloudflare workers, not the "workers unbound" that are "intended for applications that need long execution times", then the price is $0.50 per million requests and $0 for bandwidth.

andrewguenther 5y ago
Thanks for pointing this out, I've gone ahead and removed mentions of Cloudflare's pricing from my comment since I can't find an authoritative source for their egress pricing in their docs. The point general point still stands, all cloud provider egress costs suck and Cloudflare is just trying to strongarm AWS into entering a bandwidth agreement with them.
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  Honestly I'd love it even if AWS just joined into the bandwidth alliance. Then I could store backups in glacier but have several options to retrieve it at a reasonable price.
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  No it doesn't. Since the article mentions that Amazon is charging egress pricing for egress data that doesn't go though the public internet, which is much cheaper and isn't egress in the first place. Except at Amazon/AWS ofc.

MisterPea 5y ago

/thread Thanks for this. I was trying to find a simple comparison of pricing on the article but only found an overly simple water analogy.

partiallypro 5y ago

I don't know about GCP but Azure's egress costs go down as you use more and more dropping as low as .05/GB, and if you are using Cloudflare on top of it the costs go down even more. Then don't forget ingress fees, Azure charges nothing, while AWS charges ~.015/GB in. Since a lot of protocols rely on heavy ingress as well that starts to add up. AWS is notoriously expensive in bandwidth costs, that's nothing new.

corlinp 5y ago

I took the article as pointing out that they specifically do not charge AWS for data transfer to CloudFlare and yet AWS charges full-price for bandwidth while other clouds do not. That's not a shoddy hit-piece, it's exposing some predatory business practices. Of course it'll benefit CloudFlare, but that doesn't mean it's a disingenuous article.

laurencerowe 5y ago

If you're doing a lot of egress look into AWS Direct Connect (I think GCP has an equivalent too.) That gets you down to $0.02/GB

christophilus 5y ago

Digital Ocean: 0.01/GB Netcup: basically free (40TB is baked into the VPS price) I think it’s safe to say that all of the major providers egregiously overcharge for bandwidth.

Rd6n6 5y ago
I’ve never heard of Netcup. How are they compared to say DO?

NicoJuicy 5y ago

The article is about egress data that doesn't go over the public internet, which is much cheaper. Other cloud companies don't use the same price for that, while Amazon does. With an markup...

0xy 5y ago

Cloudflare does multiple petabytes of traffic on their enterprise plan for ~$10k/m. Disclosure: $NET shareholder

neop1x 5y ago

Yes, most people think about Azure/GCP/AWS/Alibaba only. But there are many others, smaller and bigger providers. For example: Scaleway (small, in Europe) is like DO: Egress cost is part of the instance price Oracle cloud: Egress cost depends on the monthly usage and and the destination country (free of charge up into $0.050 USD per GB per month) [1] Egress shouldn't be as expensive as it is in major clouds. [1] https://www.oracle.com/cloud/networking/networking-pricing.html https://www.oracle.com/cloud/networking/networking-pricing.h...

chaz6 5y ago

On that basis, I am saving $90,000 a year by having a dedicated server from Hetzner (running a Tor relay). If I could afford that, I would pay off my mortgage in a couple of years.