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‘If You’re Not a Criminal, Don’t Be Afraid’– NSO CEO says
- ArtDev 5y agoor journalist, or activist, or civil rights lawyer, or politician..
- sonotathrowaway 5y agoThose sound like fancy synonyms for criminals.
- bb88 5y agoTell that to Khashoggi...
- briantakita 5y agoThe problem is there are so many regulations that just about everybody breaks the law everyday.
- kaybe 5y agoThat, and laws can change fast. In Germany, we know.
- insickness 5y ago"Show me the man, I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria, chief of the Soviet secret police
- rchiniquy 5y agoOne problem is that dissent can be criminalized to intentionally break the information feedback loops which preserve liberty. Another problem I have with it is civil rights (I believe in them).
- wiz21c 5y ago‘If You’re Not a Criminal, Don’t Be Afraid’ So should Netanyahu be afraid ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu#Criminal_investigations_and_indictment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu#Criminal_in... (so yeah, criminal investigation, so he's not a criminal until proven to be one, but anyway...)
- unchocked 5y agoIncluding the crime of running from your tyrannical father... https://thewire.in/world/dubai-princess-sheikh-latifa-pegasus-list https://thewire.in/world/dubai-princess-sheikh-latifa-pegasu...
- g8oz 5y agoEven a cursory look at the abuses of NSO spyware reported by CitizenLab reveals misuse by the thuggish governments it courts as clients. Journalists, activists and dissidents have all been targeted. In Mexico health activists advocating against the over consumption of sugary pop were targeted!
- Zelphyr 5y agoThat's like people who say, "I don't have anything to hide, I've done nothing wrong." to which I reply, "Ok. Take your clothes off right now. Remove the curtains from your bedroom window and the door off of your bathroom." The look on their face is that of incredulity. People have an expectation of privacy and need the ability to hide perfectly benign things in their lives. Most importantly, they should have the freedom to do so, even with electronic devices where they're conducting their lives in an ever increasing manner. Shalev Hulio's argument is so bad that it actually makes me trust his company even less than I did before.
- syshum 5y agoAlmost 10 years go, Moxie Marlinspike published a great rebuttal to the "If you have nothing to hide" and "if your not a criminal" defenses of these kind of systems. Still one of the better rebuttals https://www.wired.com/2013/06/why-i-have-nothing-to-hide-is-the-wrong-way-to-think-about-surveillance/ https://www.wired.com/2013/06/why-i-have-nothing-to-hide-is-...
- Adamantisa 5y agoI'm cold. I'd wake up with sunlight. It's unsightly.
- orwin 5y agoLet your phone number and your address here then.
- Adamantisa 5y agoI wouldn't do that to avoid prank calls or harassing, not due to privacy.
- diggernet 5y ago> "I wouldn't do that [give up my privacy] to avoid prank calls or harassing, not due to privacy." Do you see how contradictory that is? It is precisely due to privacy. You value your privacy, in order to avoid those things.
- aeternum 5y agoProblem is everyone is a criminal. Can anyone in the world truthfully say they've never broken a law?
- babyblueblanket 5y agoSure, let's start with the NSO CEO first! I'm sure there's nothing wrong with asking him to drop all his phone data, private messages, calls, to any state actor, right?
- matheusmoreira 5y agoCompletely agree. Every time someone says "I got nothing to hide" they should have to prove it by doxxing themselves. The argument will be over when they refuse to do it.
- mandeepj 5y ago> ‘If You’re Not a Criminal, Don’t Be Afraid’– NSO CEO says What a psychopath. So, that means we have not stolen anything then - we should leave all the doors of our homes open.
- netrus 5y agoTo be fair, your door is basically open to your government. If it wants to be in your house, it can be. If it wants to observe you unnoticed, it can. There is no winning against corrupt governments - other than getting rid of them. That being said, I want my government to help others to get rid of corrupt governments, and that should include actions against NSO.
- ibeckermayer 5y agoThe point is that it is indeed a criminally corrupt government that would enter your house without just probable cause. Concerning oneself with the implementation and maintenance of such principles of justice is wise even if you have “nothing to hide”. Pointing out that the government could barge through your door via heavily armed police or military is beside the point.
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- underseacables 5y agoI’m not a criminal, but I’m afraid. Afraid that my information is going to be used to make decisions about me which I have no control over, or worse, given/shared with/leaked to private companies to do the same.
- alabamacadabra 5y agoI do not have anything to hide, and furthermore, I do not have anything I am willing to share. These people are fucked.
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- formerly_proven 5y agoIf you're not a criminal, don't be afraid, obey and survive.
- matheusmoreira 5y ago> NSO itself claims that it works with governments to help catch the most serious and dangerous criminals - terrorists, gangsters, and pedophiles Like clockwork. What they really do is provide the means for governments to assassinate journalists and dissidents.
- commandlinefan 5y ago"it is insufficient to protect ourselves with laws; we need to protect ourselves with mathematics." -- Bruce Schneier
- nextstep 5y agoThat’s great, except most of the targets’ “crime” was simply being a thorn in the side of powerful politicians in their country.
- frankbreetz 5y agoHe should have said "If I'm not a criminal, don't be afraid"
- Off 5y agoYeah, that may be right when you live in a first word country, but why don't you try living in a third world country under the rule of the military where the law is only used to incriminate innocent people because they spoke up against the tyranny and corruption. Here in Algeria, there are 200 [0] innocent people in prisons because they shared their opinions on the Interwebs. Being a criminal is no longer an excuse, dictators will do anything to stay in power, they don't care if what you're doing is illegal or not, they will silence any individual who stands in their way and you're providing them the means to do so. [0] https://www.algerian-detainees.org/ https://www.algerian-detainees.org/
- cblconfederate 5y agoA few years later, this kind of business will be outlawed. It's basically theft that's currently legal by taking advantage of the legal vacuum. In the name of pedofilia and terrorism the constant surveillance has become so pervasive that it won't be long before people will stop caring about those things , because living as a farmed animal gets really old after a while.
- quantum_state 5y agoThat’s what the Big Brother would say …
- incrudible 5y agoIn other words: "Be Afraid"
- xyzzy21 5y agoThe problem is our legal system has become something where everyone is violating some law somehow all the time. So everyone is a possible criminal.
- olliej 5y agoTell that to Khashoggi. oh wait, you can't.
- popileviz 5y agoThis is so stupid on so many levels. I hope this is just hypocrisy and lies to cover his ass, because if he actually believes that then he's the dumbest son of a bitch on the planet.
- wellthisisgreat 5y agoSays a manager of a wildly secretive company, who barely speaks in public
- nexuist 5y agoWho determines if you're a criminal?
- bumblebritches5 5y agoLMAO. Currently being stalked by a psychopath for being an asshole on fb 10 years ago via Pegasus. Fuck that motherfucker.
- kvonhorn 5y ago> smartphone hacks of high-profile journalists and world leaders As someone who relies on my head of state to not be compromised by foreign actors and journalists to help me hold my politicians accountable, I do, in fact, need to be afraid of the toolset NSO is selling.
- cyanydeez 5y ago*criminal defined as anyone monied interests enemy
- helloworld11 5y agoRarely in the last couple years have I had the displeasure of reading so much utterly dishonest bullshit in a single piece of interview text. This guy is either so utterly sociopathic that he can't even perceive how obviously false his claims sound, or he just has so much contempt for the public that he doesn't give a shit. Grotesque.