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It's unbelievable to me how Teams can be this bad on pretty much all platforms. I'm not surprised that it's bad on Linux, but it continuing to record your micro

It's unbelievable to me how Teams can be this bad on pretty much all platforms. I'm not surprised that it's bad on Linux, but it continuing to record your microphone after you leave a meeting until it's closed is downright acceptable (if you don't believe me, open pavucontrol after a meeting). On Android, I've had it crash twice this week when trying to expand a message I sent. Not to mention the terrible and inconsistent UI of course, but I think that's already what it's known for.

gchamonlive 5y ago
I wouldn't mind teams being bad if we could just pretend it doesn't exist. However Microsoft find creative ways to shove it down our metaphorical throats, even for us using Linux, because many companies downright require the use of teams for communication in the corporation because it was sold with a bundled license.
dole 5y ago
Praise Electron. I can't imagine the cross platform headaches Teams has induced on its developers. Sometimes you have to wonder whether Win11's new hardware requirements and Electron/Teams' crappy performance are related.
- dividedbyzero 5y ago
  Judging by how cross-platform was done before Electron, the macOS app would probably lag way behind and Linux users would get nothing at all.
- Kaze404 5y ago
  Considering Slack and Discord also use Electron, and not only have much more functionality but also do it pretty much flawlessly (to reasonable extents), I don't buy this argument.
  - stjohnswarts 5y ago
    Yeah it's fine to call Electron a little memory piggy, but there's no reason stable apps can't be built on it. A company like MS should be embarrassed that their app sucks so badly.
    - onkoe 5y ago
      Electron works wonderfully and is quite fun to develop with. It's a shame that the performance is.. questionable.. but it's not hard to make stable apps with it. Seems to be a Microsoft issue at this point lol
- gchamonlive 5y ago
  We can't pretend Microsoft doesn't have the resources to do something like this right. They just don't focus on user experience. This is not limited to teams. Azure Active Directory, Windows Servers, Sharepoint, OneDrive... they all have terrible UX.
dividedbyzero 5y ago
It doesn't just record for too long, it also seems to record on multiple microphones. I have an Elgato Wave 3 microphone that has its own mute mechanism, but even when it's muted in hardware, Teams is somehow able to tell when I'm speaking and alerts me if I'm muted within Teams. It's pretty creepy – the Wave 3 seems to mute itself just fine, I've tested it again and again and it always works flawlessly, yet Teams always shows the alert. My best guess is that Teams probably records other microphones as well (my webcam has one, too). No idea how to verify that on macOS, though.
GrinningFool 5y ago
Every time I'm done with a Teams meeting, I `killall -9 teams` because I can't trust it to behave if I leave it in the background.
- paulcarroty 5y ago
  Heh, if I don't trust the app then don't install it. Maybe offline VM/docker/etc as option.

gchamonlive 5y ago

I wouldn't mind teams being bad if we could just pretend it doesn't exist. However Microsoft find creative ways to shove it down our metaphorical throats, even for us using Linux, because many companies downright require the use of teams for communication in the corporation because it was sold with a bundled license.

dole 5y ago

Praise Electron. I can't imagine the cross platform headaches Teams has induced on its developers. Sometimes you have to wonder whether Win11's new hardware requirements and Electron/Teams' crappy performance are related.

dividedbyzero 5y ago
Judging by how cross-platform was done before Electron, the macOS app would probably lag way behind and Linux users would get nothing at all.
Kaze404 5y ago
Considering Slack and Discord also use Electron, and not only have much more functionality but also do it pretty much flawlessly (to reasonable extents), I don't buy this argument.
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  Yeah it's fine to call Electron a little memory piggy, but there's no reason stable apps can't be built on it. A company like MS should be embarrassed that their app sucks so badly.
  - onkoe 5y ago
    Electron works wonderfully and is quite fun to develop with. It's a shame that the performance is.. questionable.. but it's not hard to make stable apps with it. Seems to be a Microsoft issue at this point lol
gchamonlive 5y ago
We can't pretend Microsoft doesn't have the resources to do something like this right. They just don't focus on user experience. This is not limited to teams. Azure Active Directory, Windows Servers, Sharepoint, OneDrive... they all have terrible UX.

dividedbyzero 5y ago

It doesn't just record for too long, it also seems to record on multiple microphones. I have an Elgato Wave 3 microphone that has its own mute mechanism, but even when it's muted in hardware, Teams is somehow able to tell when I'm speaking and alerts me if I'm muted within Teams. It's pretty creepy – the Wave 3 seems to mute itself just fine, I've tested it again and again and it always works flawlessly, yet Teams always shows the alert. My best guess is that Teams probably records other microphones as well (my webcam has one, too). No idea how to verify that on macOS, though.

GrinningFool 5y ago

Every time I'm done with a Teams meeting, I `killall -9 teams` because I can't trust it to behave if I leave it in the background.

paulcarroty 5y ago
Heh, if I don't trust the app then don't install it. Maybe offline VM/docker/etc as option.