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Forem Self-Host
- indigodaddy 5y agoI’m disappointed that there is not a “cloud-agnostic” version. Eg a script that you can deploy to any cloud/provider ssh/instance endpoint.
- Something1234 5y agoOr any shared hosting provider. It bugs me so much how every project seems to think I want to run a cloud instance to host it and bring in that maintenance burden. It's stupid. Give me shared any day for the small stuff.
- 0des 5y agoWhile it would be nice to have these things, think about it: this isn't a product someone is selling us, they were doing their own thing making something that worked for them and stopped and thought "dang I bet the other nerds out there would use this" and then did what they could to open source it. That in itself this is generous, and nowhere does it imply any other types of agreement. Does that make some of us sad? sure! Is that this dev's problem? absolutely not.
- bhalp1 5y agoThis is true— But also, we will support the journey towards being 100% cloud agnostic— It just wasn't worth holding up this release to get it all perfect. Nothing is deeply cloud-specific in the core stack— Opportunities to go cloud agnostic are there, we just might have to do it via contribution, as we have a few important projects on the go with conflict with the time this would take. But it's open source, and it will happen :)
- 0des 5y agoThanks for everything you do, we really appreciate it! Good job, team!
- canadaduane 5y agoI'm a big fan of software that makes better communities possible online. Ever since Discourse set the standard for "good self-hosted open source forum software," I've always wished there were something simpler to deploy. However, my first impression of Forem is, "this software looks complicated." Can anyone more familiar briefly speak to the trade-offs that were made? Why podman, butane, ansible? Most communities are small, but it looks like the expectation here is that communities might grow to hundreds of thousands (or millions), so orchestration etc. is necessary?
- kissgyorgy 5y agoI had the same kind of thought when I saw the requirement for deployment. It's such a random stack and definitely not the right abstraction for a flexible deployment (for smaller communities as you mentioned). It seems also expensive to host it.
- bhalp1 5y agoYes, Forem is extracted from dev.to— which was built to reach millions— With crowdsourced moderation, feed algorithms, rich editors, etc, and we're working backwards from there. So yeah, it's a little complicated at this layer of the stack, and getting simpler over time as we work to extract from the core. Background processes, on-the-fly image optimization/caching— It's more shopify for independent social networking than it is classical forum software.
- canadaduane 5y agoThanks, good background info.
- gizdan 5y ago> Ever since Discourse set the standard for "good self-hosted open source forum software," I know this is besides your point, but I wouldn't credit Discourse with any standards but horrible UX. It's the worse of (new) Reddit combined with the worst of forum software. Horrendous.
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- beaconstudios 5y agohow did dev.to and hackernoon appear so suddenly? For the longest time it was just medium and random people's blogs and all of a sudden these two platforms just got huge.
- agustif 5y agoHackernoon at least was on medium as a publication for along time... They might decided to transition off when medium dropped the own domain support
- gabereiser 5y agoWhat’s the reason there isn’t a docker compose-able way to run this? Did I miss something? I like the software, and congrats on making it available to all. Wish there was a simple compose up option.
- NmAmDa 5y agoThey don't use docker but podman.
- tbonesteaks 5y agoYou can. In the repo there is > bin/container-setup You just need to copy the .env_sample file to .env. I ran it on my Mac and worked right out the gate to poke around locally.
- andrewmcwatters 5y agoVery strange and undesirable to launch with such specific cloud options.
- ajklsdhfniuwehf 5y agoi guess buying "clouds" now is just as accepted as buying a domain. (note how on both, the term buying doesn't mean buying, but having the privilege to continue to rent) i can see myself in the 90s cursing about all the lame rich kids just paying for silly domain names instead of using readily available IP addresses you needed to host already.
- wilshiredetroit 5y agoI LOVE Forem and Dev.To The stack is very rational.. and "easy-ish" but its not wordpress easy.. most groups..and social networks.. dont burst outside 500 monthly active users.. at best.. 5000~ most groups are small and doesnt need a sophisticated scaling system. I often test out communities with a very simple wordpress install running buddypress... it suits most communities and its so easily movable to cloud... anyway.. i love Forem the dev.to guys have really created something phenomenal
- antifa 5y agoWhat kind of JS and HTML templates is the front end? It's not clear from a quick skim of the github mobile website.
- k__ 5y agoLast time I looked, the frontend was built with Preact.
- Lammy 5y agoLove the logo, very Paul Rand. I hope that's a ~27.5º skew! https://www.cosmic-core.org/free/article-58-geometry-the-golden-ratio-part-3-various-aspects-of-the-golden-ratio/ https://www.cosmic-core.org/free/article-58-geometry-the-gol...
- Thoreandan 5y agoUnrelated to "Friends Of Rick E. Moose", an earlier forum software package. ah well.