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Very interesting. There are so many things Id like to say. c) Was this done as blackmail? There is a somewhat common dating site scam where someone gets you to

Very interesting. There are so many things Id like to say. c) Was this done as blackmail? There is a somewhat common dating site scam where someone gets you to friend them on FB, and then to sext with them-- then they threaten to send the material to your FB friends. I'd imagine OF girls would almost be a captive audience for this. --- While I find OF personally distasteful, I realize that I paid for sex the old fashioned way, "With a wedding ring, a house, a child and half the stuff when you leave." I can't help but see this as an acceleration of that. I know plenty of people in miserable marriages. Women have always traded beauty for money. Just before it was through marriage. --- and lastly... I think we're ignoring the elephant in the room. I'd wager that a much higher percentage than average of OF girls have likely been abuse victims at some point in their lives. There's this paradoxical thing where, yes, they're adults they have every right to sell pictures, but often what leads them to this is... abuse, which makes the whole thing very murky. Source? Anecdotal-- having dated a cam girl, and my SO works with girls who have been abused and it's just depressing. I have very causal interactions with this girls, but, they'll either be afraid of you because you're a man, or recklessly flirt because you're a man, or in the case of neglect/absentee fathers-- cast you in the role of the male role-model they need. I have about 6 girls who call me "dad." :-/ One girl here actually gave someone a blowjob for a Lunchables snack pack (worth $2.99).

throwmeawaydddy 5y ago
> c) Was this done as blackmail? There is a somewhat common dating site scam where someone gets you to friend them on FB, and then to sext with them-- then they threaten to send the material to your FB friends. I'd imagine OF girls would almost be a captive audience for this. No, it wasn't blackmail. The creator never received any messages from the fan that went nuclear (they only know it was a 'fan' since they had the entire catalogue of pay-per-access content and some had very few purchases). It seems they just woke up one day and said 'fuck it, time to wreck a life'. They persisted for a few months. From memory, they started with the creators LinkedIn account and then moved to Facebook -> Instagram -> mass emailing the creators 9-5 company. The creator deleted most online accounts and started using an alias (which sadly the ex-fan also discovered and continued spamming). > and lastly... I think we're ignoring the elephant in the room. Yeah, I think you're on the money with your core point. Very few of the creators I interacted with directly seemed to be thriving in other parts of life sadly.
- oceanghost 5y ago
  Thank you for the thoughtful reply. A childhood friend I had turned out to be one of the "crazy stalker" type individuals. I do not know what psychologically leads to this position, but I do know his family was very dysfunctional. I cut him off as a friend when he had a blowup because he discovered his g/f was also dating another friend of ours, and he went to the guys house to beat him up. So, 20 years later I'm reading the local Facebook feed, and some poor woman has posted this crazy guy she met at a bar was sending her death threats and stalking her and the police were looking for him. And yea, it's my former friend. I replied that I had known him previously and hoped this was all a misunderstanding, but I'd be happy to talk to the police if needed. And then the sardonic moment: numerous women replied saying, "Yea, he stalked me too." Including one gal I was fairly close to. My point is only-- mental illness sucks and is widespread. I can see by some twisted logic he felt that stalking this woman was sort of, doing the work in the relationship, being devoted to her, and then being angry when she wasn't returning his affections, and somehow thinking that anger, would get her to fall in line. I think OF invites these types of creeps and while unfortunate, it should not be unexpected.
- sumtechguy 5y ago
  stalkers are a weird lot. I got one once by posting a single comment on an internet forum. I like to use aliases (thankfully) so all he could do is burn that one alias. They started following me around on different topics to continue the conversation. My wife had a guy who would randomly show up at her work, house, friends, stores... He confused that they were in a band together that somehow she would want to hook up with him. For this case some of these people think they have a relationship with the other end. They get emotionally attached but when they realize it is not going to be what they want they become unglued. It does not take much to set them off.
prionassembly 5y ago
Not all psychological trauma is necessarily due to abuse. When my wife was pregnant and we didn't know the gender yet I did a lot of reading on attachment theory and what truth there is to "daddy issues" etc. in case it was a girl. It's a trope, but there's something to it. As it turns out we have a lovely baby boy. Now, to avoid traumatizing him...

throwmeawaydddy 5y ago

> c) Was this done as blackmail? There is a somewhat common dating site scam where someone gets you to friend them on FB, and then to sext with them-- then they threaten to send the material to your FB friends. I'd imagine OF girls would almost be a captive audience for this. No, it wasn't blackmail. The creator never received any messages from the fan that went nuclear (they only know it was a 'fan' since they had the entire catalogue of pay-per-access content and some had very few purchases). It seems they just woke up one day and said 'fuck it, time to wreck a life'. They persisted for a few months. From memory, they started with the creators LinkedIn account and then moved to Facebook -> Instagram -> mass emailing the creators 9-5 company. The creator deleted most online accounts and started using an alias (which sadly the ex-fan also discovered and continued spamming). > and lastly... I think we're ignoring the elephant in the room. Yeah, I think you're on the money with your core point. Very few of the creators I interacted with directly seemed to be thriving in other parts of life sadly.

oceanghost 5y ago
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. A childhood friend I had turned out to be one of the "crazy stalker" type individuals. I do not know what psychologically leads to this position, but I do know his family was very dysfunctional. I cut him off as a friend when he had a blowup because he discovered his g/f was also dating another friend of ours, and he went to the guys house to beat him up. So, 20 years later I'm reading the local Facebook feed, and some poor woman has posted this crazy guy she met at a bar was sending her death threats and stalking her and the police were looking for him. And yea, it's my former friend. I replied that I had known him previously and hoped this was all a misunderstanding, but I'd be happy to talk to the police if needed. And then the sardonic moment: numerous women replied saying, "Yea, he stalked me too." Including one gal I was fairly close to. My point is only-- mental illness sucks and is widespread. I can see by some twisted logic he felt that stalking this woman was sort of, doing the work in the relationship, being devoted to her, and then being angry when she wasn't returning his affections, and somehow thinking that anger, would get her to fall in line. I think OF invites these types of creeps and while unfortunate, it should not be unexpected.
sumtechguy 5y ago
stalkers are a weird lot. I got one once by posting a single comment on an internet forum. I like to use aliases (thankfully) so all he could do is burn that one alias. They started following me around on different topics to continue the conversation. My wife had a guy who would randomly show up at her work, house, friends, stores... He confused that they were in a band together that somehow she would want to hook up with him. For this case some of these people think they have a relationship with the other end. They get emotionally attached but when they realize it is not going to be what they want they become unglued. It does not take much to set them off.

prionassembly 5y ago

Not all psychological trauma is necessarily due to abuse. When my wife was pregnant and we didn't know the gender yet I did a lot of reading on attachment theory and what truth there is to "daddy issues" etc. in case it was a girl. It's a trope, but there's something to it. As it turns out we have a lovely baby boy. Now, to avoid traumatizing him...