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CBL-Mariner – Linux OS for Azure 1P services and edge appliances
- new_guy 5y agoExtend.
- TroisM 5y agocommits are quite old
- Sasasu 5y ago> originating from the Photon distribution and all doc is written by Azure VMware. What's the relationship between MS or CBL-Mariner and VMware?
- tw04 5y ago> and all doc is written by Azure VMware. I don’t follow what you mean. >What's the relationship between MS or CBL-Mariner and VMware? None? Photon is an open source Linux distribution that’s based on fedora. Mariner pulls from photon, fedora, and others. It’s entirely developed by MS.
- mbilker 5y agoPhoton is developed/managed by VMWare. https://github.com/vmware/photon https://github.com/vmware/photon
- tw04 5y agoI’m aware, that doesn’t mean they have any direct input into mariner, they’re an upstream that mariner pulls a couple of things from, as well as fedora and others. It also explains nothing about comment that “all doc is written by azure VMware”. Azure is a cloud computing service. VMware is a software company owned by Dell. That would be like saying “all doc is written by AWS redhat”.
- _wldu 5y agoI'm just disappointed it's not called Microsoft Linux NT.
- herpderperator 5y agoWhat about Lindows?
- edoceo 5y agoToo close to Windows, Microsoft will sue.
- rovr138 5y agoThis sounds familiar... Isn't there something like this? Edit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linspire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linspire > In 2002, Microsoft sued Lindows, Inc. claiming the name Lindows constituted an infringement of their Windows trademark. Microsoft's claims were rejected by the court, which asserted that Microsoft had used the term windows to describe graphical user interfaces before the Windows product was ever released, and that the windowing technique had already been implemented by Xerox and Apple Computer many years before.[7] Edit2 ...is that the joke? whoosh
- gexla 5y agoWinix
- lvs 5y agoWinux. Unfortunately, this is taken in several other ways already, according to google.
- lebrad 5y agoDon't worry people! Common Base Linux-Mariner is only going to embrace and extend! There are absolutely no current plans to extinguish.
- DoctorOW 5y agoAssuming this is sarcasm, and you do believe this is a plan to EEE. How exactly would that work for Linux?
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y agoI'm not convinced this is EEE, but it's hardly impossible: They start adding features that only make sense in a MS world (hyper-v drivers, secure boot improvements, package Linux as an "app" (WSL2)), then market their take on the stack to anyone using normal distros (leveraging buy-in to the MS ecosystem, low costs, and good support) to remove the contributors and money that would have supported the existing ecosystem (i.e. steal suse/Ubuntu/RH customers). As a result, fewer people build the things that would let Linux compete with MS, and anything without their backing bitrots. "Linux" remains, as a server OS (preferably on Azure) and as a compatibility layer in WSL2, but without drivers for new laptop/desktop hardware or GUI development it's just another component under NT. Or, if you just don't believe a single company can control the ecosystem, go build a Linux system with no userland code from Red Hat and let us know how it goes.
- DoctorOW 5y ago> go build a Linux system with no userland code from Red Hat and let us know how it goes. This is why I'm having trouble seeing the EEE connection. It's incredibly easy to do that. Anything Red Hat has, I could just fork and now it's "my" code under my control.
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y agoOkay, yes; if you ignore network effects and claim that forking code gives you meaningful control of it, then FOSS can never be controlled by any centralized entities. You will forgive my skepticism.
- AtomicOrbital 5y agoblog post at https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-released-cbl-mariner-linux-distro https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-released-cbl-mar...
- hoppyhoppy2 5y agoSee also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27886889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27886889 from earlier today Edit: also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27792366 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27792366 from earlier.
- tomrod 5y agoFunny! I posted on Microsoft's Linux several days ago
- afavour 5y ago“Embrace, Extend, Extinguish!” OK, we got the decades old slogan out of the way, now can we talk about the actual distro?
- sterlind 5y agothis distro is for first-party usage, i.e. Microsoft's own services. I doubt we expect anyone from outside to use it, it's just on GitHub because there's no reason it shouldn't be.
- TroisM 5y agoYou are saying that this is the embrace period?
- SEJeff 5y agoAnd the GPL
- d110af5ccf 5y ago> > it's just on GitHub because there's no reason it shouldn't be > And the GPL I don't follow? The GPL doesn't have anything to say about internal usage. The way it's written it only kicks in if you ship to third parties (ie distribute). This is what led to the AGPL - proprietary modifications to GPL code and users interacting remotely with the end product.
- SEJeff 5y agoSorry, I was being a touch sarcastic and it wasn’t obvious. I should have added /s
- rovr138 5y agoFirst off, it’s got an MIT license.
- SEJeff 5y ago
- tyingq 5y agoI would have assumed Ubuntu, given that they've partnered with them a few times, "deb" is the default Linux download for Edge/Linux, Ubuntu seems to be the default distro for WSL, etc. Surprised it's RedHat based.
- TheRealPomax 5y agoUbuntu is what users want (where "want" is a rather loaded term, it's just the most accessible version for most folks at the moment). Not what enterprise businesses want to resell.
- killjoywashere 5y agoNah, the single biggest customer is the US Government, and the US Government buys Red Hat. I mean, Uncle Sam will forego machine learning optimizations that ship out of the box in Ubuntu and thus walk away from entire product lines simply because Red Hat has a better STIG. There was no way Microsoft was going to risk that.
- alexeldeib 5y agoThis is a distro intended for 1P internal services. Azure heavily uses Ubuntu internally compared to RHEL. Personally I’m curious to see how adoption turns out, because I think you’re right and this would be more likely something customers pick up. (I work in Azure)
- technion 5y agoI don't suppose you could tell us what 1P stands for? Top Google hit for Azure 1P is.. this Github repo, followed by the Azure Pricing page then hundreds of sunglasses sales.
- popinman322 5y agoFirst party
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- 908B64B197 5y agoWondering if the Surface Duo will use the same kernel for it's Android OS.
- notRobot 5y agoAlso see: A Look into CBL-Mariner, Microsoft’s Internal Linux Distribution From 8 days ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27792366 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27792366
- ipaddr 5y agoThe entire source code comes from AI code assisted powered macros sourced from copies of existing distros.
- woodruffw 5y agoNow all we need is the Linux Subsystem for Windows, to complete the confusing marketing cycle.
- loosescrews 5y agoIsn't that Wine?
- mjcohen 5y agoNo. Wine stands for Wine Is Not Emacs.
- 29083011397778 5y agoI desperately hope you're having a laugh. > Wine (originally an acronym for "Wine Is Not an Emulator") is a compatibility layer capable of running Windows applications on several POSIX-compliant operating systems From https://www.winehq.org/about/ https://www.winehq.org/about/
- abrookewood 5y agoRegardless of the reasoning behind this move, it's pleasing to see them acknowledge all of the open source software that made this possible. Amazon could learn something from this.
- krylon 5y agoI remember, many years ago, seeing some trade magazin publish an "announcement" of "Microsoft GNU/Linux" as an April fools' joke. After the last couple of years, this is not as big a surprise as it would have been ten years ago, but back then the idea of Microsoft creating and making publically available their own GNU/Linux distro was really far out. I did not think I'd ever see the day. Next stop: flying pigs!
- TroisM 5y agothank you dang for marking this as dupe when the non-dupe is about the same age with 1/2 the votes... do you get MS payments?