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Kudos to whichever kid discovered this. They're a damn industrious lot when it comes to avoiding school work.

petercooper 5y ago
You may also like this story where a young girl figured out a way to trick everyone into thinking Zoom was broken so she didn't have to attend online lessons: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/eight-year-old-girl-branded-23543224 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/eight-year-old-girl...
- Cthulhu_ 5y ago
  TL;DR of that one: she activated a login lock by filling in the wrong password a couple of times. Zoom support should have been able to see "this account has been locked out due to too many login attempts" though, so that's a bit of a fail. And of course the login error should say as much. My job here is done; Captain Hindsight, away!
  - lordnacho 5y ago
    The other good one I saw was to change your name to "Connecting..."
    - CTOSian 5y ago
      lolz... thats really oldschool!! we did with at the BBS-era also we "echoed" this "Type +++ To go voice chat" was epic
      - pmarreck 5y ago
        Things that date me: Knowing the Hayes AT command set
        samplatt 5y ago
        Coming from a rural Aussie upbringing, I arrived on the scene slightly too late it incorporate that into a career. +++ath0 was still fun though. And the AT set is still used (with extensions) in GSM modems! It's still relevant!
        yetihehe 5y ago
        Even in some wifi "modems". It's like in that "space shuttle size is connected to horse ass width" story.
      - tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
        That seems like instead of a joke, it could be a really cool way to actually implement voice chat... just unlink the modem from the call and use a phone.
    - soperj 5y ago
      Change your name to the teachers name and tell everyone that class is cancelled for the day.
- swasheck 5y ago
  Yeah. At this point, social engineering is a hallmark of the Covid generation. In retrospect, Zoom hackery almost seemed like the inevitable outcome. We’ve shared good laughs with our kids over the antics “classmates” pulled because of zoom
  - mindslight 5y ago
    It's also taken this long to stack enough layers of digital abstractions that kid pranks aren't running afoul of the draconian CFAA.
- bgrainger 5y ago
  Original Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/mfpiccolo/status/1360685864100237318 https://twitter.com/mfpiccolo/status/1360685864100237318 (The article just recaps this without linking to it.)
  - petercooper 5y ago
    Good find. I knew I'd seen it in a better format somewhere before but Googling just found 101 articles.
    - forbiddenvoid 5y ago
      > but Googling just found 101 articles This is just what Google does now.
      - petercooper 5y ago
        Yes. Don't get me started. Quite frequently recently I've searched for answers to things and the "smart" answers they give are flat out wrong or dangerous because they misinterpreted a text. I should probably start to keep a list..
        sss111 5y ago
        time to build a search engine hall of fame website, or subreddit?
MKais 5y ago
True story: During Zoom classes, a friend's kid used to move his lips without emitting any sound faking a mic problem in order to not receive questions from his teacher
- baryphonic 5y ago
  When I was in high school, we had one BC Calculus teacher for the entire school district. He'd visit each school round-robin and would teach the other schools via video conference. Given that this was 20 years ago, we'd have streaming issues with some frequency. The solution was usually to reboot the streaming machine at the teacher's location. One day before class when the teacher wasn't at our school, one kid said, "when I cough three times, everyone freeze." About 20 mins into the lecture, he did just that and we all held our positions. The teacher noticed about ten second later, asked us a bunch of times if we could hear him, and then, with exasperation, said, "well looks like they froze up again..." We had a good laugh for the two mins or so we were down and then continued on. I don't think anyone ever blabbed that we had faked it just for kicks.
  - Buttons840 5y ago
    My daughter did kindergarten online. I once observed that at least some kid behaviors remain the same online. The teacher lost connection one day and one of the kids said "she's gone!" and it was immediate chaos, everyone started talking and making noises, one kid was literally screaming the whole time, the kids were drawing on the screen and fighting over who was sharing their screen, everyone was laughing and having a good time until the teacher reconnected. Later my daughter fondly told me about it, but I had already overheard the whole thing from the other room.
    - deleted 5y ago
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- dvfjsdhgfv 5y ago
  In my daughter's school during PE on Zoom one kid always had only the left half of his body showing, everybody thought it's a limitation of his camera or something. Then one day his cat moved his laptop and everybody realized he was moving only the visible part of his body and was playing on his phone in the other hand the whole time.
Hoasi 5y ago
Ingenuity at work is always a beautiful sight.
listless 5y ago
I feel like we should find these kids and get them out of school where their time is being wasted. Let's get them into some proper practical training that lines up with their interests or hell, just hire them and teach them on the job. In fact, maybe we could do that for....all the kids? "School is not a place for smart people" - Rich Sanchez
- dado3212 5y ago
  Not sure that quoting Rick and Morty like it’s some kind of gospel is the best argument for education reform.
  - listless 5y ago
    It was somewhat tongue in cheek - but only somewhat. But points for getting the reference.
    - idiotsecant 5y ago
      The only thing more delicious than an unironically 'I got a big brain' Rick and Morty quote is when the person making the quote is super confident about how obscure it is.
      - floren 5y ago
        Isn't that line from the very first episode of the whole show?
      - listless 5y ago
        I don’t know that quoting cartoons signals “I got a big brain”. It’s fascinating though that people are commenting on the quote. I didn’t think that would resonate.
      - mewpmewp2 5y ago
        Because you should immediately mock anyone who might enjoy Rick and Morty and get that happiness feeling when someone recognized the quote from the show they watched which is fairly typical for any film or show someone has watched. Because everyone who watch that show think it's strictly limited to only high IQ individuals and watching, enjoying that show is a clear indicator of higher intelligence.
271828182846 5y ago
This wasn't "discovered" by any kid. That observation has been around for a while and its source is people who looked for reasons to discredit the meaningfulness of that test.
soperj 5y ago
Definitely did stuff like this in school. I was in a honours social studies class, and would consistently say "We're the honours class, there's got to be a better way to teach this" whenever our teacher decided we were just going to take notes for the day. He was always very excited about it, and would come up with huge class exercises to teach the topic. It was really awesome but would end up taking the whole week instead of the one day worth of note taking. We ended up doing about 1/4 of the curriculum that year, and the final was incredibly short.
lxgr 5y ago
Heard a story from a secondary school teacher during the second lockdown about one of her students that wouldn't enable the video camera because "it's pay-per-minute on their computer". And sure enough, in the age of everything-as-a-service, that was just about believable to the teacher.
andrei_says_ 5y ago
Imagine a world where schools are not built to resemble factory work conditions but actually catered to kids’ natural curiosity. Where learning happened via the pull of that curiosity and not via force-feeding.
- bloqs 5y ago
  Problem with this is mechanically in terms of schooling. You need general education that has to somehow be given, and how do you arrange teaching for the wishes and whims of hundreds of children? Even in classical one to one mentoring, an element of curriculum is how learning is shaped and comfort zones broken down.
  - Cheetah26 5y ago
    Seems like you're looking for Montessori schooling. I was actually fortunate enough to attend one for ages 3-5. Although I don't have many memories from then specifically, I do remember repeated bordem when I stopped going and was moved to public school. I always wanted to do more hands on activities as I had before, but the closest it ever got was art. Another note of interest, my senior class at high school consisted of 4 people whom I attended Montessori with, of those four, three took IB classes and participated in clubs / extracurriculars above the average rate for my school. I can't help but wonder if even just those few years at a young age made a lasting impact.
    - tobylane 5y ago
      I'd expect it to be the parents choices, same for whether boredom is tolerated or encouraged at home.

You may also like this story where a young girl figured out a way to trick everyone into thinking Zoom was broken so she didn't have to attend online lessons: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/eight-year-old-girl-branded-23543224 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/eight-year-old-girl...

Cthulhu_ 5y ago
TL;DR of that one: she activated a login lock by filling in the wrong password a couple of times. Zoom support should have been able to see "this account has been locked out due to too many login attempts" though, so that's a bit of a fail. And of course the login error should say as much. My job here is done; Captain Hindsight, away!
- lordnacho 5y ago
  The other good one I saw was to change your name to "Connecting..."
  - CTOSian 5y ago
    lolz... thats really oldschool!! we did with at the BBS-era also we "echoed" this "Type +++ To go voice chat" was epic
    - pmarreck 5y ago
      Things that date me: Knowing the Hayes AT command set
      - samplatt 5y ago
        Coming from a rural Aussie upbringing, I arrived on the scene slightly too late it incorporate that into a career. +++ath0 was still fun though. And the AT set is still used (with extensions) in GSM modems! It's still relevant!
        yetihehe 5y ago
        Even in some wifi "modems". It's like in that "space shuttle size is connected to horse ass width" story.
    - tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
      That seems like instead of a joke, it could be a really cool way to actually implement voice chat... just unlink the modem from the call and use a phone.
  - soperj 5y ago
    Change your name to the teachers name and tell everyone that class is cancelled for the day.
swasheck 5y ago
Yeah. At this point, social engineering is a hallmark of the Covid generation. In retrospect, Zoom hackery almost seemed like the inevitable outcome. We’ve shared good laughs with our kids over the antics “classmates” pulled because of zoom
- mindslight 5y ago
  It's also taken this long to stack enough layers of digital abstractions that kid pranks aren't running afoul of the draconian CFAA.
bgrainger 5y ago
Original Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/mfpiccolo/status/1360685864100237318 https://twitter.com/mfpiccolo/status/1360685864100237318 (The article just recaps this without linking to it.)
- petercooper 5y ago
  Good find. I knew I'd seen it in a better format somewhere before but Googling just found 101 articles.
  - forbiddenvoid 5y ago
    > but Googling just found 101 articles This is just what Google does now.
    - petercooper 5y ago
      Yes. Don't get me started. Quite frequently recently I've searched for answers to things and the "smart" answers they give are flat out wrong or dangerous because they misinterpreted a text. I should probably start to keep a list..
      - sss111 5y ago
        time to build a search engine hall of fame website, or subreddit?

MKais 5y ago

True story: During Zoom classes, a friend's kid used to move his lips without emitting any sound faking a mic problem in order to not receive questions from his teacher

baryphonic 5y ago
When I was in high school, we had one BC Calculus teacher for the entire school district. He'd visit each school round-robin and would teach the other schools via video conference. Given that this was 20 years ago, we'd have streaming issues with some frequency. The solution was usually to reboot the streaming machine at the teacher's location. One day before class when the teacher wasn't at our school, one kid said, "when I cough three times, everyone freeze." About 20 mins into the lecture, he did just that and we all held our positions. The teacher noticed about ten second later, asked us a bunch of times if we could hear him, and then, with exasperation, said, "well looks like they froze up again..." We had a good laugh for the two mins or so we were down and then continued on. I don't think anyone ever blabbed that we had faked it just for kicks.
- Buttons840 5y ago
  My daughter did kindergarten online. I once observed that at least some kid behaviors remain the same online. The teacher lost connection one day and one of the kids said "she's gone!" and it was immediate chaos, everyone started talking and making noises, one kid was literally screaming the whole time, the kids were drawing on the screen and fighting over who was sharing their screen, everyone was laughing and having a good time until the teacher reconnected. Later my daughter fondly told me about it, but I had already overheard the whole thing from the other room.
  - deleted 5y ago
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dvfjsdhgfv 5y ago
In my daughter's school during PE on Zoom one kid always had only the left half of his body showing, everybody thought it's a limitation of his camera or something. Then one day his cat moved his laptop and everybody realized he was moving only the visible part of his body and was playing on his phone in the other hand the whole time.

Hoasi 5y ago

Ingenuity at work is always a beautiful sight.

listless 5y ago

I feel like we should find these kids and get them out of school where their time is being wasted. Let's get them into some proper practical training that lines up with their interests or hell, just hire them and teach them on the job. In fact, maybe we could do that for....all the kids? "School is not a place for smart people" - Rich Sanchez

dado3212 5y ago
Not sure that quoting Rick and Morty like it’s some kind of gospel is the best argument for education reform.
- listless 5y ago
  It was somewhat tongue in cheek - but only somewhat. But points for getting the reference.
  - idiotsecant 5y ago
    The only thing more delicious than an unironically 'I got a big brain' Rick and Morty quote is when the person making the quote is super confident about how obscure it is.
    - floren 5y ago
      Isn't that line from the very first episode of the whole show?
    - listless 5y ago
      I don’t know that quoting cartoons signals “I got a big brain”. It’s fascinating though that people are commenting on the quote. I didn’t think that would resonate.
    - mewpmewp2 5y ago
      Because you should immediately mock anyone who might enjoy Rick and Morty and get that happiness feeling when someone recognized the quote from the show they watched which is fairly typical for any film or show someone has watched. Because everyone who watch that show think it's strictly limited to only high IQ individuals and watching, enjoying that show is a clear indicator of higher intelligence.

271828182846 5y ago

This wasn't "discovered" by any kid. That observation has been around for a while and its source is people who looked for reasons to discredit the meaningfulness of that test.

soperj 5y ago

Definitely did stuff like this in school. I was in a honours social studies class, and would consistently say "We're the honours class, there's got to be a better way to teach this" whenever our teacher decided we were just going to take notes for the day. He was always very excited about it, and would come up with huge class exercises to teach the topic. It was really awesome but would end up taking the whole week instead of the one day worth of note taking. We ended up doing about 1/4 of the curriculum that year, and the final was incredibly short.

lxgr 5y ago

Heard a story from a secondary school teacher during the second lockdown about one of her students that wouldn't enable the video camera because "it's pay-per-minute on their computer". And sure enough, in the age of everything-as-a-service, that was just about believable to the teacher.

andrei_says_ 5y ago

Imagine a world where schools are not built to resemble factory work conditions but actually catered to kids’ natural curiosity. Where learning happened via the pull of that curiosity and not via force-feeding.

bloqs 5y ago
Problem with this is mechanically in terms of schooling. You need general education that has to somehow be given, and how do you arrange teaching for the wishes and whims of hundreds of children? Even in classical one to one mentoring, an element of curriculum is how learning is shaped and comfort zones broken down.
- Cheetah26 5y ago
  Seems like you're looking for Montessori schooling. I was actually fortunate enough to attend one for ages 3-5. Although I don't have many memories from then specifically, I do remember repeated bordem when I stopped going and was moved to public school. I always wanted to do more hands on activities as I had before, but the closest it ever got was art. Another note of interest, my senior class at high school consisted of 4 people whom I attended Montessori with, of those four, three took IB classes and participated in clubs / extracurriculars above the average rate for my school. I can't help but wonder if even just those few years at a young age made a lasting impact.
  - tobylane 5y ago
    I'd expect it to be the parents choices, same for whether boredom is tolerated or encouraged at home.