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> That's complete bullshit. What's causing the distrust is lobbying by some of the largest industries in the world and major media companies making money hand o

by darawk 5y ago

> That's complete bullshit. What's causing the distrust is lobbying by some of the largest industries in the world and major media companies making money hand over fist selling lies This used to be true. In 1995 this was definitely true. But today it just isn't. Look at the primary promulgators of vaccine misinformation. They're not lobbyists for anyone, they're just amateurs who think they're smarter than they are.

harry8 5y ago
Like the now vice president of the USA who claimed she wouldn't get a "Trump" vaccine? Repeated ad-nausium on CNN, MSNBC. You can point to plenty of similar stuff with republican partisans and Fox. Both should be abhorrent equally to people who lean democrat as republican. So who do you believe? For any sensible person the answer is obviously neither. How about Fauci or the CDC? The Street: So, why weren't we told to wear masks in the beginning? Fauci: "Well, the reason for that is that we were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply. And we wanted to make sure that the people namely, the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected." [1] If you believe Fauci, he lied, he said so himself. (For what he thought was the greater good, sure. It's very understandable and human error.) And in so doing undermined the trust there too pretty badly. Which comes at great cost. Tell the truth people. Warts and all. Even if it provides some small amount of short term ammunition to liars, thieves, confidence tricksters and so on because the truth is the only weapon that works long-term. We see the consequences of not respecting that right now and its very worrying. [1] https://www.thestreet.com/video/dr-fauci-masks-changing-directive-coronavirus https://www.thestreet.com/video/dr-fauci-masks-changing-dire...
- asah 5y ago
  Fauci is clearly on record lying about masks. But digging into Kamala Harris, it appears that she actually said she wouldn't trust Trump's word *alone* - wanted to see FDA review. https://www.google.com/search?q=kamala+%22trump+vaccine%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=kamala+%22trump+vaccine%22
  - harry8 5y ago
    Oh stop it. Now. This was not a reasoned, sensible, measured approach to vaccine information. This was using vaccine hesitancy to score partisan points in a pandemic. Period. Stop making excuses for it no matter who does it. It's wrong on Fox, on CNN, by Republican partisans, by Democrat partisans. It's equally wrong when done for ulterior motive by non-partisans.

by darawk 5y ago

harry8 5y ago

Like the now vice president of the USA who claimed she wouldn't get a "Trump" vaccine? Repeated ad-nausium on CNN, MSNBC. You can point to plenty of similar stuff with republican partisans and Fox. Both should be abhorrent equally to people who lean democrat as republican. So who do you believe? For any sensible person the answer is obviously neither. How about Fauci or the CDC? The Street: So, why weren't we told to wear masks in the beginning? Fauci: "Well, the reason for that is that we were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply. And we wanted to make sure that the people namely, the health care workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected." [1] If you believe Fauci, he lied, he said so himself. (For what he thought was the greater good, sure. It's very understandable and human error.) And in so doing undermined the trust there too pretty badly. Which comes at great cost. Tell the truth people. Warts and all. Even if it provides some small amount of short term ammunition to liars, thieves, confidence tricksters and so on because the truth is the only weapon that works long-term. We see the consequences of not respecting that right now and its very worrying. [1] https://www.thestreet.com/video/dr-fauci-masks-changing-directive-coronavirus https://www.thestreet.com/video/dr-fauci-masks-changing-dire...

asah 5y ago
Fauci is clearly on record lying about masks. But digging into Kamala Harris, it appears that she actually said she wouldn't trust Trump's word *alone* - wanted to see FDA review. https://www.google.com/search?q=kamala+%22trump+vaccine%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=kamala+%22trump+vaccine%22
- harry8 5y ago
  Oh stop it. Now. This was not a reasoned, sensible, measured approach to vaccine information. This was using vaccine hesitancy to score partisan points in a pandemic. Period. Stop making excuses for it no matter who does it. It's wrong on Fox, on CNN, by Republican partisans, by Democrat partisans. It's equally wrong when done for ulterior motive by non-partisans.