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Hope that kid wins so much money he can just drop out of college now. This is such blatant malicious activity on both these companies parts. Deleting video evid

Hope that kid wins so much money he can just drop out of college now. This is such blatant malicious activity on both these companies parts. Deleting video evidence and confirming with police based on the acquisition of a permit not allowable for identification. If you can't even use the ID to vote, why do you get to use it to incriminate someone? This whole sub-contracting policing out to private companies is going to end up being a constant state of witch trials. At least the state is the law. These two companies aren't in the slightest.

judge2020 5y ago
> If you can't even use the ID to vote, why do you get to use it to incriminate someone? Because there's extra requirements for voting that aren't related to actually having a government-issued ID card.
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- protomyth 5y ago
  This was not a government issued ID card as it says "This temporary document is not to be used for identification purposes."
  - judge2020 5y ago
    This doesn't address how being able to vote has anything to do with it. You can't vote with the picture-included permanent learner's permit or a real driving license in New York either if you're under a certain age.
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- blunte 5y ago
  Your answer doesn't address the question: "why do you get to use it to incriminate someone?" But the point remains: if an ID card isn't considered valid for voting, then why should it be considered valid for identifying an individual for a crime? It is a valid ID (identification record) or it is not.
  - bsder 5y ago
    Because ID cards have different strengths and validities. We consider the presentation of a credit card to be sufficient to identify you for the purchase of a product. We do not consider the presentation of a credit card to be valid to identify you for a crime without corroborating evidence.
    - mijoharas 5y ago
      It's explicitly stated that that ID card is not sufficient to identify someone as having committed a crime as the document says: > This temporary document is not to be used for identification purposes.
  - bpodgursky 5y ago
    I'm assuming because these ID cards are issued to a lot of people not qualified to vote, including those not of-age and not citizens.
  - judge2020 5y ago
    > "why do you get to use it to incriminate someone?" The thing is that it didn't - he's getting heckled due to warrants for his name, but charges against him have always been dropped when the DA has seen 'oh this isn't him' - not because these DAs are nice people who see the misunderstanding, but because the evidence is not strong enough to prove he committed the crime. That's why the case is for "320 Assault Libel & Slander" against Apple & the security company, not false imprisonment against the police department(s) (who have reasonable cause to detain suspects).
  - TechBro8615 5y ago
    > if an ID card isn't considered valid for voting If you showed up to vote with a learners permit, you would get some funny looks and then be shown to the voting machine. Nobody asks you for ID at all. That's what the current political controversy is about – whether to even require any ID. It's also a total non-sequitur from this thread.
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judge2020 5y ago

> If you can't even use the ID to vote, why do you get to use it to incriminate someone? Because there's extra requirements for voting that aren't related to actually having a government-issued ID card.

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protomyth 5y ago
This was not a government issued ID card as it says "This temporary document is not to be used for identification purposes."
- judge2020 5y ago
  This doesn't address how being able to vote has anything to do with it. You can't vote with the picture-included permanent learner's permit or a real driving license in New York either if you're under a certain age.
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blunte 5y ago
Your answer doesn't address the question: "why do you get to use it to incriminate someone?" But the point remains: if an ID card isn't considered valid for voting, then why should it be considered valid for identifying an individual for a crime? It is a valid ID (identification record) or it is not.
- bsder 5y ago
  Because ID cards have different strengths and validities. We consider the presentation of a credit card to be sufficient to identify you for the purchase of a product. We do not consider the presentation of a credit card to be valid to identify you for a crime without corroborating evidence.
  - mijoharas 5y ago
    It's explicitly stated that that ID card is not sufficient to identify someone as having committed a crime as the document says: > This temporary document is not to be used for identification purposes.
- bpodgursky 5y ago
  I'm assuming because these ID cards are issued to a lot of people not qualified to vote, including those not of-age and not citizens.
- judge2020 5y ago
  > "why do you get to use it to incriminate someone?" The thing is that it didn't - he's getting heckled due to warrants for his name, but charges against him have always been dropped when the DA has seen 'oh this isn't him' - not because these DAs are nice people who see the misunderstanding, but because the evidence is not strong enough to prove he committed the crime. That's why the case is for "320 Assault Libel & Slander" against Apple & the security company, not false imprisonment against the police department(s) (who have reasonable cause to detain suspects).
- TechBro8615 5y ago
  > if an ID card isn't considered valid for voting If you showed up to vote with a learners permit, you would get some funny looks and then be shown to the voting machine. Nobody asks you for ID at all. That's what the current political controversy is about – whether to even require any ID. It's also a total non-sequitur from this thread.
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago

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