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> Or because they’re working multiple jobs/overtime and do all the chores themselves. Well, the data indicate that this is not the case. For households in the

> Or because they’re working multiple jobs/overtime and do all the chores themselves. Well, the data indicate that this is not the case. For households in the bottom two quintiles of income, only 18(!)% of householders work full time in the bottom quintile, and 45% work full time in the next-lowest quintile. source: https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/explaining-income-inequality-by-household-demographics-2015-update/ https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/explaining-income-inequality-...

sokoloff 5y ago
Not working full-time does not necessarily mean working fewer hours. Working 2 29-hour jobs and commuting between them would be vastly more time and energy consuming, yet would show up as “not working full-time”.
- randomdata 5y ago
  Two 29 hour jobs would result in a 58 hour work week, and thus the worker would be considered to work full-time.
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  - imtringued 5y ago
    Call it working overtime.
  - oblio 5y ago
    I think it's more likely that a lot of poor people have a main job, frequently with a number of hours that prevents them getting all the benefits of a full time job (think 35 hours instead of 40) and then they work extra, on the side, to be able to make ends meet. So legally they'd only show up as working 15-20-35 hours and in fact they'd work 60 hours a week.
    - randomdata 5y ago
      The referenced dataset is about employment, not jobs. Hours worked in a week would not be affected by how many different employers one has. The distinction is if they work 1 to 34 hours (part-time) or 35 or more hours (full-time).
TeMPOraL 5y ago
Does that count all jobs, or just jobs the tax man knows about? At least over here (Poland, EU), people officially unemployed often work under the table, sometimes quite a lot, and they cannot afford the word of it to get to any public agency. Such people are unwilling to talk about it to researchers either. (We recently had a public census, and it asked a bunch of sensitive questions around topics like employment. Despite the survey repeatedly giving assurances that this is all used for public statistics, and that data will be processed by trained personnel under strict confidentiality regulation, the people I know who are forced to skirt employment/tax rules here and there to survive, were not willing to reveal any indication of it.)
- tester34 5y ago
  >At least over here (Poland, EU), people officially unemployed often work under the table, sometimes quite a lot, and they cannot afford the word of it to get to any public agency. Such people are unwilling to talk about it to researchers either. "Job finding office" literally asks you whether you're willing to work "under the table". I've been asked this question when attempted to find my very first job

sokoloff 5y ago

Not working full-time does not necessarily mean working fewer hours. Working 2 29-hour jobs and commuting between them would be vastly more time and energy consuming, yet would show up as “not working full-time”.

randomdata 5y ago
Two 29 hour jobs would result in a 58 hour work week, and thus the worker would be considered to work full-time.
- deleted 5y ago
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- imtringued 5y ago
  Call it working overtime.
- oblio 5y ago
  I think it's more likely that a lot of poor people have a main job, frequently with a number of hours that prevents them getting all the benefits of a full time job (think 35 hours instead of 40) and then they work extra, on the side, to be able to make ends meet. So legally they'd only show up as working 15-20-35 hours and in fact they'd work 60 hours a week.
  - randomdata 5y ago
    The referenced dataset is about employment, not jobs. Hours worked in a week would not be affected by how many different employers one has. The distinction is if they work 1 to 34 hours (part-time) or 35 or more hours (full-time).

TeMPOraL 5y ago

Does that count all jobs, or just jobs the tax man knows about? At least over here (Poland, EU), people officially unemployed often work under the table, sometimes quite a lot, and they cannot afford the word of it to get to any public agency. Such people are unwilling to talk about it to researchers either. (We recently had a public census, and it asked a bunch of sensitive questions around topics like employment. Despite the survey repeatedly giving assurances that this is all used for public statistics, and that data will be processed by trained personnel under strict confidentiality regulation, the people I know who are forced to skirt employment/tax rules here and there to survive, were not willing to reveal any indication of it.)

tester34 5y ago
>At least over here (Poland, EU), people officially unemployed often work under the table, sometimes quite a lot, and they cannot afford the word of it to get to any public agency. Such people are unwilling to talk about it to researchers either. "Job finding office" literally asks you whether you're willing to work "under the table". I've been asked this question when attempted to find my very first job