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> Linux on the desktop is now around 1-2% by some estimates. I don't think it will ever reach the market share of windows 20 years ago, Linux was an attractive
by Ologn 5y ago
> Linux on the desktop is now around 1-2% by some estimates. I don't think it will ever reach the market share of windows
20 years ago, Linux was an attractive way to be able to work in a Unix environment on the desktop. With the release of MacOS X 20 years ago, and the release of package managers like brew, people can get a lot of that from MacOS. For personal use, I still primarily use Linux on desktop and laptop - I use System76 Ubuntu, because I usually just want a working environment, and not to futz with it too much.
Tablets and especially phones have been a popular form factor in recent years, and Linux is ubiquitous on both.
- lumost 5y agoI'm quite bullish on system76. But they have a big challenge ahead of them. They effectively have to compete with Apple for hardware and software quality to win the developer market. But.. Apple has been shooting themselves in the foot on the software side by breaking basic toolchains for software development. And System76 has the ability to progressively grow a small user base without an all or nothing strategy.
- throwawaysea 5y agoAs I understand System76 doesn’t actually do much with their own hardware but instead repackages ones made by Clevo, an OEM manufacturer whose models can be found under many different brands (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clevo https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clevo).
- dralley 5y agoThat's a little unfair to S76. For one, they have been actively working with Clevo on the hardware. For two, most laptop OEMs don't own their designs fully, they just design a case and contract out the electronics to a third party in Taiwan. And they develop their own firmware.
- speedgoose 5y agoAll the Clevo I have seen didn't have a great look and feel compared to most other brands. I can buy the same Clevo laptop from local sellers, for much cheaper.
- tomnipotent 5y agoI know it's such a small thing, but I refuse to buy a S76 laptop until they get rid of those silly numpads. I don't know a lot of developers that use them, and they just make the keyboard feel cramped and both the keyboard and trackpad feel off-center. I would pick up an Oryx Pro sans numpad in a heartbeat.
- Ologn 5y agoThis is what System76 engineers say. That their motherboards are made by an ODM (Clevo), and Clevo sells similar motherboards to customers other than System76 - but that most other OEMs (other than Apple) have their motherboards made by ODMs, who then go off to sell similar motherboards to other customers. In other words, most OEMs are selling machines built around "repackaged" ODM motherboards, so it is not a trait unique to System76.
- lumost 5y agoAye, they are moving to their own in house machines starting with the thelio. You won’t win the developer market selling repackaged Clevos.
- iudqnolq 5y agoIt's actually the other way around. Clevo resells off-label versions of the laptops system76 designs. https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/8uhfpo/why_buy_system76_or_other_mark_instead_of_clevo/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/8uhfpo/why_b...
- Shorel 5y agoThis is true. When OS X appeared, many lost interest in Linux. In so many places, only Apple laptops were seen in the laps of developers, for about a decade. Nowadays, this has changed and Linux is interesting again. In fact, it can be argued it is the opposite. OSX has stagnated and it is no longer interesting.