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"almost" Looked at two games I play, AC Valhalla and Hitman 3, they don't work. Proton "works" but does not replace Windows and never will.

by Thaxll 5y ago

solarkraft 5y ago
Never? Proton has already replaced Windows for some and I don‘t think it’s going to become any weaker. Valve keeps pushing and making pretty good progress: Even games with anti cheat software are expected to work some time soon. The Steam console was too early, but the Steam Deck might give Linux gaming a good push (even though I expect many users will install Windows, ha) and shows how committed Valve is to gaming on Linux.
- zamalek 5y ago
  > Even games with anti cheat software are expected to work some time soon. I'm extremely excited about this, but there is a very sad reality check: anti-cheat vendors have pointed out that a hackable kernel breaks their model. They will most likely aim to detect and block WINE execution.
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  - AlexAndScripts 5y ago
    They're going to be forced to accept that and allow it anyway if Linux gets big enough.
ffffwe3rq352y3 5y ago
I mean of course not all games work! But for me personally literally every single game I wanted to play works! Everyone's experience is different. I mostly play single player games. https://www.protondb.com/ https://www.protondb.com/ If you change it to single player you can see 81% of the top 1000 games are compatible and 90% of the top 100 are as well. If you don't do single player its still around 76% for top 1000. Top 10 is 50% Also just noticed that hitman 2 (Three isn't listed for some reason) does work!
- Zababa 5y ago
  I think the problem is that Hitman 3 is only on the epic store, while Hitman 1 and 2 are on steam.
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- simion314 5y ago
  I love the ProtonDb comments but I am disgusted by the misleading tagging. Like a title marked Platinum will not work out of the box (need various workarounds like copying dlls around, custom flags) , Gold titles will often require custom Proton versions so is IMO an advanced feature, so who the hell is pushing this misleading labels and numbers is IMO making us the Linux users a bunch of dudes that we trick people to believe that things just work.
MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
If you play AAA games that are pretty new you're experience will definitely suffer. If you play anything older than 2015-ish and doesn't require another software center to play a game (ubisoft or origin) then it's usually pretty good.
techrat 5y ago
There's a reason they don't work: Both use incredibly invasive always online DRM. (Despite being single player games!) Even on Windows people have trouble getting both working.
smoldesu 5y ago
I played Hitman 2 on Proton without issue, I highly doubt that Hitman 3 doesn't work for some reason.
- alisonkisk 5y ago
  Your speculation is less informative then someone's evidence.
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    Here's some evidence then: https://github.com/derrod/legendary/wiki/Hitman-3-Guide https://github.com/derrod/legendary/wiki/Hitman-3-Guide https://software.kaminata.net/linux-wine-games/hitman-3-linux-wine/ https://software.kaminata.net/linux-wine-games/hitman-3-linu... https://youtu.be/luo_xMfOtAU https://youtu.be/luo_xMfOtAU
PenguinCoder 5y ago
Weird, AC Valhalla works better for me on Linux than Windows l. Performance is better.

"almost" Looked at two games I play, AC Valhalla and Hitman 3, they don't work. Proton "works" but does not replace Windows and never will.

by Thaxll 5y ago

"almost" Looked at two games I play, AC Valhalla and Hitman 3, they don't work. Proton "works" but does not replace Windows and never will.

solarkraft 5y ago

Never? Proton has already replaced Windows for some and I don‘t think it’s going to become any weaker. Valve keeps pushing and making pretty good progress: Even games with anti cheat software are expected to work some time soon. The Steam console was too early, but the Steam Deck might give Linux gaming a good push (even though I expect many users will install Windows, ha) and shows how committed Valve is to gaming on Linux.

zamalek 5y ago
> Even games with anti cheat software are expected to work some time soon. I'm extremely excited about this, but there is a very sad reality check: anti-cheat vendors have pointed out that a hackable kernel breaks their model. They will most likely aim to detect and block WINE execution.
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- AlexAndScripts 5y ago
  They're going to be forced to accept that and allow it anyway if Linux gets big enough.

ffffwe3rq352y3 5y ago

I mean of course not all games work! But for me personally literally every single game I wanted to play works! Everyone's experience is different. I mostly play single player games. https://www.protondb.com/ https://www.protondb.com/ If you change it to single player you can see 81% of the top 1000 games are compatible and 90% of the top 100 are as well. If you don't do single player its still around 76% for top 1000. Top 10 is 50% Also just noticed that hitman 2 (Three isn't listed for some reason) does work!

Zababa 5y ago
I think the problem is that Hitman 3 is only on the epic store, while Hitman 1 and 2 are on steam.
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simion314 5y ago
I love the ProtonDb comments but I am disgusted by the misleading tagging. Like a title marked Platinum will not work out of the box (need various workarounds like copying dlls around, custom flags) , Gold titles will often require custom Proton versions so is IMO an advanced feature, so who the hell is pushing this misleading labels and numbers is IMO making us the Linux users a bunch of dudes that we trick people to believe that things just work.

MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago

If you play AAA games that are pretty new you're experience will definitely suffer. If you play anything older than 2015-ish and doesn't require another software center to play a game (ubisoft or origin) then it's usually pretty good.

techrat 5y ago

There's a reason they don't work: Both use incredibly invasive always online DRM. (Despite being single player games!) Even on Windows people have trouble getting both working.

smoldesu 5y ago

I played Hitman 2 on Proton without issue, I highly doubt that Hitman 3 doesn't work for some reason.

alisonkisk 5y ago
Your speculation is less informative then someone's evidence.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Here's some evidence then: https://github.com/derrod/legendary/wiki/Hitman-3-Guide https://github.com/derrod/legendary/wiki/Hitman-3-Guide https://software.kaminata.net/linux-wine-games/hitman-3-linux-wine/ https://software.kaminata.net/linux-wine-games/hitman-3-linu... https://youtu.be/luo_xMfOtAU https://youtu.be/luo_xMfOtAU

PenguinCoder 5y ago

Weird, AC Valhalla works better for me on Linux than Windows l. Performance is better.