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I have always thought many android based phones are fantastic. I have a dirt cheap Nokia(don't even know the model)and apart from initial startup time and avail

by yawaworht1978 5y ago

I have always thought many android based phones are fantastic. I have a dirt cheap Nokia(don't even know the model)and apart from initial startup time and availability of integrated, so to say native apps, it blows the iphone 11 out of the water in camera, speed, responsiveness. Also had a xiaomi phone as business phone, and it was performing better than the currently available iphone. I think iphones have stopped looking nice a while ago anyway. I like the design and finish of Mac laptops, but even there, you can get better from brands with windows os, but that will cost a ridiculous amount of money. May I ask, apart from look, why do so many people in the US chose to use an iphone? Genuine curiosity.

whateveracct 5y ago
> May I ask, apart from look, why do so many people in the US chose to use an iphone? Genuine curiosity. iOS
jhloa2 5y ago
My experience with android has been the opposite. I’ve never had an android phone that lasted more than 2 years without becoming frustratingly slow whereas my iPhone 8 still runs as well as the day I got it. All anecdotal but I stick with what works for me
- rjzzleep 5y ago
  All my androids have lasted quite a while actually, but I had to replace various parts of them. headphone jack, display assembly, sdcard slot. I have an Xperia XZ2 that has/had a really annoying touchscreen issue where the cursor will jump around(soon after I bought it). Apparently it's just an issue with the phone. I bought a second hand iPhone 8 a year later and have been using it since. I guess I don't care as much about how the phone looks and more about the fact that the iPhone 8 is still on latest iOS whereas XZ2 and basically all sony phones will hardly get any updates and you get to choose between keeping your camera or updating your phone and keeping it fast with a custom rom(yes, you keep your phones camera active nowadays even after unlocking, but there is no updated camera HAL on the latest custom rom, you'll always have a subpar camera experience). Sony even announced that the Xperia 1 III will only receive one major update recently. Although everyone is still hoping that that was a mistake but the europeans. I would say Xiaomi deserves it though. They're cheap devices with good performance(and inofficial GCAM), and usually some (not great) open source drivers that allow for fast custom rom development(although that too has taken a turn for worse recently).
the_dune_13 5y ago
> it blows the iphone 11 out of the water in camera, speed, responsiveness I have not seen iphone being outclassed by another phone.
- izacus 5y ago
  Then you haven't been looking very far. Doesn't anyone on HN understand the concept of observer bias? -_-
  - adventured 5y ago
    > Then you haven't been looking very far. And you didn't name any phones that outclass the iPhone. That's because there are none. I say that as not a particular fan of Apple products or their ecosystem. I only buy Android phones as I prefer that ecosystem and interface. Every generation - for the past ~13 years - I research all the phones on the market, those worth bothering with, and it's still exceptionally clear Apple is making the best smartphones. Ecosystem, performance, audio, video, photos, gaming, all aspects remain at elite levels among smartphones. They're the only smartphone maker that has consistently stayed at or close to the top for so long, generation after generation.
  - marcellus23 5y ago
    Maybe you’re the one with the bias? Or can observer bias apply only to people who disagree with you?
14 5y ago
I got an iPhone 8 after rocking an iPhone 4s for about 8 years. And this point, all the phones are pretty damn fast and smart be it an android or iPhone ecosystem. I would be happy with either. What finalized my purchase was the fact that Costco was offering 300$ store credit plus a couple other things on a Black Friday sale. Seemed like a good deal at the time.
katmannthree 5y ago
As someone who has both a mid-range nokia released this year and an A13 iPhone I would love to see a side by side comparison video between your two devices showing camera and speed tests. From my experience it's the opposite, the nokia stutters and lags during normal usage while the iPhone loads apps almost instantly and doesn't drop frames.
f6v 5y ago
Apple makes small phones that have flagship power. I can’t imagine buying a 6.7 inch smartphone.

whateveracct 5y ago

> May I ask, apart from look, why do so many people in the US chose to use an iphone? Genuine curiosity. iOS

jhloa2 5y ago

My experience with android has been the opposite. I’ve never had an android phone that lasted more than 2 years without becoming frustratingly slow whereas my iPhone 8 still runs as well as the day I got it. All anecdotal but I stick with what works for me

rjzzleep 5y ago
All my androids have lasted quite a while actually, but I had to replace various parts of them. headphone jack, display assembly, sdcard slot. I have an Xperia XZ2 that has/had a really annoying touchscreen issue where the cursor will jump around(soon after I bought it). Apparently it's just an issue with the phone. I bought a second hand iPhone 8 a year later and have been using it since. I guess I don't care as much about how the phone looks and more about the fact that the iPhone 8 is still on latest iOS whereas XZ2 and basically all sony phones will hardly get any updates and you get to choose between keeping your camera or updating your phone and keeping it fast with a custom rom(yes, you keep your phones camera active nowadays even after unlocking, but there is no updated camera HAL on the latest custom rom, you'll always have a subpar camera experience). Sony even announced that the Xperia 1 III will only receive one major update recently. Although everyone is still hoping that that was a mistake but the europeans. I would say Xiaomi deserves it though. They're cheap devices with good performance(and inofficial GCAM), and usually some (not great) open source drivers that allow for fast custom rom development(although that too has taken a turn for worse recently).

the_dune_13 5y ago

> it blows the iphone 11 out of the water in camera, speed, responsiveness I have not seen iphone being outclassed by another phone.

izacus 5y ago
Then you haven't been looking very far. Doesn't anyone on HN understand the concept of observer bias? -_-
- adventured 5y ago
  > Then you haven't been looking very far. And you didn't name any phones that outclass the iPhone. That's because there are none. I say that as not a particular fan of Apple products or their ecosystem. I only buy Android phones as I prefer that ecosystem and interface. Every generation - for the past ~13 years - I research all the phones on the market, those worth bothering with, and it's still exceptionally clear Apple is making the best smartphones. Ecosystem, performance, audio, video, photos, gaming, all aspects remain at elite levels among smartphones. They're the only smartphone maker that has consistently stayed at or close to the top for so long, generation after generation.
- marcellus23 5y ago
  Maybe you’re the one with the bias? Or can observer bias apply only to people who disagree with you?

14 5y ago

I got an iPhone 8 after rocking an iPhone 4s for about 8 years. And this point, all the phones are pretty damn fast and smart be it an android or iPhone ecosystem. I would be happy with either. What finalized my purchase was the fact that Costco was offering 300$ store credit plus a couple other things on a Black Friday sale. Seemed like a good deal at the time.

katmannthree 5y ago

As someone who has both a mid-range nokia released this year and an A13 iPhone I would love to see a side by side comparison video between your two devices showing camera and speed tests. From my experience it's the opposite, the nokia stutters and lags during normal usage while the iPhone loads apps almost instantly and doesn't drop frames.

f6v 5y ago

Apple makes small phones that have flagship power. I can’t imagine buying a 6.7 inch smartphone.