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"A lot of poor people need to carry a gun for protection" How utterly dystopian.

post_break 5y ago
It's true though and has always been the case. Working odd hours not the usual 8-5, might not have a car so walking to work sometimes at night, living in heavy crime areas because it's affordable. I'm not projecting, just calling it like it is and why this bill is a good thing in the eyes of the people who don't even consider this sane.
- procgen 5y ago
  A gun wants to be used. Let's let it simmer a few more decades and see what happens.
  - post_break 5y ago
    Ok Vermont has had it for decades. You can be 16 years old and carry in that state. Resident and non-resident. Wait and see has passed.
    - Tade0 5y ago
      Vermont's largest city has a whopping 42k inhabitants - at this scale it isn't surprising that this has no noticeable negative effects.
- orwin 5y ago
  " Don't carry a gun if you're not ready to draw it, don't draw a gun if you're not ready to shoot. " -Every gun instructor ever. The issue is if someone wnat to jump on you and you have a gun, especially with no training, you'll be more dangerous to yourself than anyone wanting your wallet. I got robbed three time, because i was in the situation you describe (no money so have to live in high crime area, no car, and odd hours coz i had to finance my studies). I resisted one time, the first one. Trip to the hospital, police station, wasted a day for nothing after the robbery. The two others i was polite, gave them my money ( rarely have more than 20 on me) and they let me keep my credit cards, ID and my phone (my shitty firefox OS did not impress them). I wouldn't be able to shoot at someone, so a gun on me is lost, and i think especially in a high crime area, walking with a gun would be a bad idea (and i know how to use one) And i hope you have good armorers in TX with this law, because is someone want to buy a SW500 or the new tech S&W (don't have the name) and never used a gun before, they might kill their aggressor, but most likely not touch them, loose a hand in the process.
  - krapp 5y ago
    I mean, the Second Amendment doesn't come with restrictions, requirements or qualifiers, and American gun culture is the reason owning a gun is seen as an unrestricted, inalienable right, and not a responsibility. This is what the people of Texas want, let them get it good and hard, I say.
    - jfengel 5y ago
      I mean, the Second Amendment doesn't come with restrictions, requirements or qualifiers I mean... it does. It's right there, in the first dozen words. It's confusingly written, and the Supreme Court has decided it doesn't mean anything at all. But it seems weird to pretend that it just doesn't exist.
_nicelaris_ 5y ago
How utterly privileged your life must be. This is called "earth." It's filled with these things called "people," some of whom victimize other "people." I have no patience for anti-gun positions, tbh. You guys are literally arguing in favor of innocent people getting killed, raped, and otherwise victimized, and the most baffling part is that you don't even know it.
lumberingjack 5y ago
"The city block corner is always the poor man's bar and always will be"

It's true though and has always been the case. Working odd hours not the usual 8-5, might not have a car so walking to work sometimes at night, living in heavy crime areas because it's affordable. I'm not projecting, just calling it like it is and why this bill is a good thing in the eyes of the people who don't even consider this sane.

procgen 5y ago
A gun wants to be used. Let's let it simmer a few more decades and see what happens.
- post_break 5y ago
  Ok Vermont has had it for decades. You can be 16 years old and carry in that state. Resident and non-resident. Wait and see has passed.
  - Tade0 5y ago
    Vermont's largest city has a whopping 42k inhabitants - at this scale it isn't surprising that this has no noticeable negative effects.
orwin 5y ago
" Don't carry a gun if you're not ready to draw it, don't draw a gun if you're not ready to shoot. " -Every gun instructor ever. The issue is if someone wnat to jump on you and you have a gun, especially with no training, you'll be more dangerous to yourself than anyone wanting your wallet. I got robbed three time, because i was in the situation you describe (no money so have to live in high crime area, no car, and odd hours coz i had to finance my studies). I resisted one time, the first one. Trip to the hospital, police station, wasted a day for nothing after the robbery. The two others i was polite, gave them my money ( rarely have more than 20 on me) and they let me keep my credit cards, ID and my phone (my shitty firefox OS did not impress them). I wouldn't be able to shoot at someone, so a gun on me is lost, and i think especially in a high crime area, walking with a gun would be a bad idea (and i know how to use one) And i hope you have good armorers in TX with this law, because is someone want to buy a SW500 or the new tech S&W (don't have the name) and never used a gun before, they might kill their aggressor, but most likely not touch them, loose a hand in the process.
- krapp 5y ago
  I mean, the Second Amendment doesn't come with restrictions, requirements or qualifiers, and American gun culture is the reason owning a gun is seen as an unrestricted, inalienable right, and not a responsibility. This is what the people of Texas want, let them get it good and hard, I say.
  - jfengel 5y ago
    I mean, the Second Amendment doesn't come with restrictions, requirements or qualifiers I mean... it does. It's right there, in the first dozen words. It's confusingly written, and the Supreme Court has decided it doesn't mean anything at all. But it seems weird to pretend that it just doesn't exist.

_nicelaris_ 5y ago

How utterly privileged your life must be. This is called "earth." It's filled with these things called "people," some of whom victimize other "people." I have no patience for anti-gun positions, tbh. You guys are literally arguing in favor of innocent people getting killed, raped, and otherwise victimized, and the most baffling part is that you don't even know it.

lumberingjack 5y ago

"The city block corner is always the poor man's bar and always will be"