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Reddit's https://www.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/ https://www.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/ is a good place start if you want an optimistic view of the future that embrace

• sha256kira 5y ago
  Great links! Other related rabbit holes to go down might be Adam Curtis (kinda obvious) and Liu Cixin. Anyone else have any good living scifi authors indirectly or directly dealing with related ideas?
  • varjag 5y ago
    Kim Stanley Robinson
    • sha256kira 5y ago
      Awesome recommendation thank you! Looks like New York 2140 is a perfect embodiment of what they were talking about in this manifesto.
• pyrale 5y ago
  Well, the split is probably related to how solarpunk isn't really related to the punk movement. Cyberpunk art usually describes dystopian environments, and the way individuals and communities adapt to is and subvert it. On the other hand, solarpunk art is an overtly optimistic movement, which leaves very little room for a confrontational political message. The example tweet you cited is pretty, with a "just add trees" city, where the necessary trappings of a vertical city (mass transportation, crowds, pollution, etc) are absent. This sounds a bit critical of the solarpunk movement, but it's honestly hard for me to reconcile the hard problems I face and what I see in this movement. Merely adding the "punk" affix is not going to transform what would probably better be called solar-hippie.
  • cyberpunk 5y ago
    To be honest, my art usually involves fingerpaint renderings of penguins being massacred by demons but I mean, it’s up to the viewer to make their own interpretation I suppose…
    • pyrale 5y ago
      ... But do the penguins fight back sometimes ? :)
      • cyberpunk 5y ago
        Yeah, they always win even though they have worse technology mostly just through force of numbers. Baffling really.. Maybe in an alternate universe we could have had zfs, smf and dtrace…
        • LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
          With Tribbles? Like in http://www.tribblix.org http://www.tribblix.org ? Turn towards Tribblix in the next timeline transfer tunnel! edit: What? According to about it isn't just a spin or repackaging of another illumos distribution. It's a completely independent distribution that, while sharing the key illumos technologies such as ZFS, zones, DTrace, and SMF, has been essentially built from scratch, with its own build and packaging system.
        • imoverclocked 5y ago
          We still kinda have it… but yeah, there was a lot of promise (and use!) that got lost when Oracle bought Sun. I still love the video of a guy screaming into an array of disks to show latencies spiking in a data center.
          • olodus 5y ago
            Aaand with the mention of Sun we are back on the solarpunk topic again. Great work. Circle of life, nature finds a way and all that.
• sasaf5 5y ago
  Although I like the images that this poem evoke in my mind (of deers and computers coexisting in a forest), I can't accept the "watched over" part. That seems to go contrary to the solarpunk vision of an end to hierarchy. Or maybe it is just irony and I didn't catch it.
  • xsmasher 5y ago
    You're not wrong. An ominous reading of the last line makes me think of the fetus fields from The Matrix.
• apocolyps6 5y ago
  > "should our cities be solarpunk or cyberpunk?" That's such a frustrating false equivalence, and so is the idea that solarpunk is "punk" because its opposing cyberpunk. Cyberpunk was never aspirational, its a dystopian genre. There is aspirational near-future sci-fi, its just not cyberpunk). Its like asking if we would prefer to live in the post-apocalyptic wasteland from Mad Max or in the future utopia of Star Trek.
  • La1n 5y ago
    I think the implied meaning of that question is that we are heading towards "cyberpunk" and we should not want to live in a dystopia.
• xsmasher 5y ago
  Great poem. You might also like the Donald Fagen song "I.G.Y." - as usual I can't tell if he's being straight or sarcastic, but it's a vision you can hum along with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ueivjr3f8xg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ueivjr3f8xg
  • Uhhrrr 5y ago
    Also his album Kamakiriad: I was born yesterday When they brought my Kamakiri When they handed me the keys It's a steam-power 10 The frame is out of Glasgow The tech is Balinese It's not a freeway bullet Or a bug with monster wheels It's a total biosphere The farm in the back Is hydroponic Good, fresh things Every day of the year
  • dbsmith83 5y ago
    I think he's portraying a childlike naivety since it's the perspective of him growing up in that album. Funny, especially when contrasted with some S.D. work: > "A world become one, of salads and sun" Only a fool would say that
• amatecha 5y ago
  I'm already not a user of Reddit but I clicked through just to check it out. Disappointed to watch it load 6.5mb of data (compressed) over the network to render what amounts to a list of text links and small image thumbnails. At least the "old" Reddit subdomain loads much less, comparatively (1.4mb compressed). Use it instead: https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/ https://old.reddit.com/r/solarpunk/
  • amatecha 5y ago
    I'd love to see some reasons why people downvoted my completely-ontopic comment about the heavy network usage of that Reddit link with a useful suggestion for a lower-usage alternative. If you felt my attempt to promote an energy-conscious approach on a discussion about that very subject was somehow not valuable, a text response would be more useful than suppressing my message.
• Aeolun 5y ago
  People always show a cyberpunk city at night. They are much less impressive/dystopian if you see them during the day.