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Overall car ownership will most likely take a large dip until second-hand EV's are cheap enough and the power grid modernized. It'll require decades of large-sc

Overall car ownership will most likely take a large dip until second-hand EV's are cheap enough and the power grid modernized. It'll require decades of large-scale social and infrastructural programs in order to catch up.

raxxorrax 5y ago
Questionable. Prices for fuel will rise and people pay more. End of story. Infrastructure sometimes requires you to have a car. Fuel price must change by a few magnitudes to change consumer behavior. I can guarantee that 2022 will have more cars and more energy use than 2021. To be fair: I don't think there is any policy that could change that fact.
zip1234 5y ago
I don't think they are banning ICE cars--just new ICE cars. Anyways, simultaneous with electric cars being a big thing, e-bikes are taking off. Many European cities are wonderfully suited to e-bikes, so that may take the pressure off of needing to own a car for local trips.
mytailorisrich 5y ago
> Overall car ownership will most likely take a large dip It many cases it's not possible for people to do away with their cars. So the political reality is that governments needs to ensure that people can afford to switch to EV (and that the infrastructure follows) or face riots if they make car-ownership impossible.
- gifwithaj 5y ago
  Or make other changes that make it possible for more people to do away with cars- better mass transit, better pedestrian and cycling infrastructure, less urban sprawl, more condensed housing options, etc
  - fogihujy 5y ago
    Yeah, I suspect it's going to be more people packed into smaller areas, and massive investments in public transport infrastructure. There's going to be a lot of people who don't buy it.
  - mytailorisrich 5y ago
    The point is that there are many locations and situations where this is not really realistic, and that "more condensed housing" takes a century. So practically and politically it is not possible to hit cars in general. Encourage alternatives where-ever possible but realise that there are not always alternatives and in those cases people should not be penalised for driving. Instead there should be support to transition to EV.

raxxorrax 5y ago

Questionable. Prices for fuel will rise and people pay more. End of story. Infrastructure sometimes requires you to have a car. Fuel price must change by a few magnitudes to change consumer behavior. I can guarantee that 2022 will have more cars and more energy use than 2021. To be fair: I don't think there is any policy that could change that fact.

zip1234 5y ago

I don't think they are banning ICE cars--just new ICE cars. Anyways, simultaneous with electric cars being a big thing, e-bikes are taking off. Many European cities are wonderfully suited to e-bikes, so that may take the pressure off of needing to own a car for local trips.

mytailorisrich 5y ago

> Overall car ownership will most likely take a large dip It many cases it's not possible for people to do away with their cars. So the political reality is that governments needs to ensure that people can afford to switch to EV (and that the infrastructure follows) or face riots if they make car-ownership impossible.

gifwithaj 5y ago
Or make other changes that make it possible for more people to do away with cars- better mass transit, better pedestrian and cycling infrastructure, less urban sprawl, more condensed housing options, etc
- fogihujy 5y ago
  Yeah, I suspect it's going to be more people packed into smaller areas, and massive investments in public transport infrastructure. There's going to be a lot of people who don't buy it.
- mytailorisrich 5y ago
  The point is that there are many locations and situations where this is not really realistic, and that "more condensed housing" takes a century. So practically and politically it is not possible to hit cars in general. Encourage alternatives where-ever possible but realise that there are not always alternatives and in those cases people should not be penalised for driving. Instead there should be support to transition to EV.