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The issue is that then you gatekeep higher education to the wealthy. What's more likely? Harvard reducing tuition because underprivileged kids aren't able to at

by xmprt 5y ago

The issue is that then you gatekeep higher education to the wealthy. What's more likely? Harvard reducing tuition because underprivileged kids aren't able to attend and can't get loans. Or Harvard keeping the same tuition and only admitting the wealthy people that are able to pay it (of which there are plenty).

joe_the_user 5y ago
Harvard reducing tuition because underprivileged kids aren't able to attend and can't get loans. Harvard in particular is so wealthy it always charges tuition based on ability to pay. The poor who go to Harvard pay nothing. But, of course, the poor seldom go to Harvard because they aren't admitted. Just saying. There are mid-range school where, all else being equal, your scenario might be true. But those school depend on those same lower income students and, well, I'd be in favor of them buckling and charging less.
Notanothertoo 5y ago
Good thing there is a whole market of ranging degrees of education quality and price distributed a cross the US... Also there are lots and lots of programs state and private to fund low income higher Ed. It is not a dichotomy.
ashtonkem 5y ago
Driving education policy based off anything Harvard is doing is a mistake. Pay attention to state schools only, that’s what policy should be tailored for.
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steveBK123 5y ago
Ivys are basically majority privileged kids already anyway. There was a stat that 1% of Americans go to Private High School but 40% of Ivy admittance is from Private High Schools. Add to that: the % who go to elite selective public HS in systems like NY, the large number of full-freight paying foreign students who represent their local elite and legacy admissions.. If underprivileged kids represent anything above about 5% at Ivy's I would be shocked. One stat from Boston Globe was that only 3% of Harvard comes from the US bottom 20% economically. The Ivys do more to perpetuate the existing power dynamic than they do to raise anyone up. They are far too small and far too nepotistic to do otherwise. If you want to raise the middle/bottom up, you need to look at the large state university systems which are orders of magnitude larger.

by xmprt 5y ago

joe_the_user 5y ago

Harvard reducing tuition because underprivileged kids aren't able to attend and can't get loans. Harvard in particular is so wealthy it always charges tuition based on ability to pay. The poor who go to Harvard pay nothing. But, of course, the poor seldom go to Harvard because they aren't admitted. Just saying. There are mid-range school where, all else being equal, your scenario might be true. But those school depend on those same lower income students and, well, I'd be in favor of them buckling and charging less.

Notanothertoo 5y ago

Good thing there is a whole market of ranging degrees of education quality and price distributed a cross the US... Also there are lots and lots of programs state and private to fund low income higher Ed. It is not a dichotomy.

ashtonkem 5y ago

Driving education policy based off anything Harvard is doing is a mistake. Pay attention to state schools only, that’s what policy should be tailored for.

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steveBK123 5y ago

Ivys are basically majority privileged kids already anyway. There was a stat that 1% of Americans go to Private High School but 40% of Ivy admittance is from Private High Schools. Add to that: the % who go to elite selective public HS in systems like NY, the large number of full-freight paying foreign students who represent their local elite and legacy admissions.. If underprivileged kids represent anything above about 5% at Ivy's I would be shocked. One stat from Boston Globe was that only 3% of Harvard comes from the US bottom 20% economically. The Ivys do more to perpetuate the existing power dynamic than they do to raise anyone up. They are far too small and far too nepotistic to do otherwise. If you want to raise the middle/bottom up, you need to look at the large state university systems which are orders of magnitude larger.