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>although I don't think the NSA can just install anything on my computer If it's not connected to a network you are probably right....otherwise 100% wrong, if

by nix23 5y ago

>although I don't think the NSA can just install anything on my computer If it's not connected to a network you are probably right....otherwise 100% wrong, if your a enough valuable target. And just lets say for fun your OS is 100% bulletproof, your +30 firmware's are not.

raxxorrax 5y ago
I doubt it. From operations that went public the attack vectors are known and you can extrapolate something about their capabilities. Of course they could get access if I were a valuable target, but that might just as well be with a large wrench. But they cannot just take control of any device. And I think many companies might even have better capabilities. Or defense, since intelligence work is very often about industrial espionage.
- nix23 5y ago
  >From operations that went public Are you talking about Snowden's powerpoint slides or the Shadow Brokers arsenal?
- atatatat 5y ago
  Wisen up.
- killjoywashere 5y ago
  You don't even exist to them. The NSA wants to infiltrate nations. They do stuff like hire a friendly foreign nation to quietly buy a security company their target depends on and then exploit that vulnerability from a host in a fourth nation.
- NotSwift 5y ago
  The NSA is an agency with a yearly budget of approximately 10 billion dollars. There are not many companies that can match that.
nextlevelwizard 5y ago
What’s with the doomer mentality. NSA isn’t some magical unicorn that can just walk through everything
- ARandomerDude 5y ago
  They kind of are though. If you have a LOT of money, time, and personnel -- and they do -- you can find a lot of vulnerabilities.
  - nextlevelwizard 5y ago
    Yes and we've seen their shit get leaked over the years. From that we can see clear patterns in what they view as valuable and where they spend their significant, but still limited focus.
    - nix23 5y ago
      Can you proof that it is a leak, and not a stunt by the NSA itself?
      - nextlevelwizard 5y ago
        You have be wearing multiple tinfoil hats if you think NSA released DeepBlue as some sort of black flag OP
        nix23 5y ago
        >NSA released DeepBlue as some sort of black flag OP EternalBlue...and it was a part of the shadow broker package, but that was just one occasion, Snowden is one of the other. One must probably wear a Tar-hat to think that this is impossible.
        nextlevelwizard 5y ago
        I guess we just have to agree to disagree. There was no benefit for them releasing the zero day.

by nix23 5y ago

raxxorrax 5y ago

I doubt it. From operations that went public the attack vectors are known and you can extrapolate something about their capabilities. Of course they could get access if I were a valuable target, but that might just as well be with a large wrench. But they cannot just take control of any device. And I think many companies might even have better capabilities. Or defense, since intelligence work is very often about industrial espionage.

nix23 5y ago
>From operations that went public Are you talking about Snowden's powerpoint slides or the Shadow Brokers arsenal?
atatatat 5y ago
Wisen up.
killjoywashere 5y ago
You don't even exist to them. The NSA wants to infiltrate nations. They do stuff like hire a friendly foreign nation to quietly buy a security company their target depends on and then exploit that vulnerability from a host in a fourth nation.
NotSwift 5y ago
The NSA is an agency with a yearly budget of approximately 10 billion dollars. There are not many companies that can match that.

nextlevelwizard 5y ago

What’s with the doomer mentality. NSA isn’t some magical unicorn that can just walk through everything

ARandomerDude 5y ago
They kind of are though. If you have a LOT of money, time, and personnel -- and they do -- you can find a lot of vulnerabilities.
- nextlevelwizard 5y ago
  Yes and we've seen their shit get leaked over the years. From that we can see clear patterns in what they view as valuable and where they spend their significant, but still limited focus.
  - nix23 5y ago
    Can you proof that it is a leak, and not a stunt by the NSA itself?
    - nextlevelwizard 5y ago
      You have be wearing multiple tinfoil hats if you think NSA released DeepBlue as some sort of black flag OP
      - nix23 5y ago
        >NSA released DeepBlue as some sort of black flag OP EternalBlue...and it was a part of the shadow broker package, but that was just one occasion, Snowden is one of the other. One must probably wear a Tar-hat to think that this is impossible.
        nextlevelwizard 5y ago
        I guess we just have to agree to disagree. There was no benefit for them releasing the zero day.