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Humans are nowhere near even slowing down CO2 emissions. CO2 emissions are instead accelerating further [1]. Carbon Dioxide Levels Lower Than Thought During Su

by loopz 5y ago

Humans are nowhere near even slowing down CO2 emissions. CO2 emissions are instead accelerating further [1]. Carbon Dioxide Levels Lower Than Thought During Super Greenhouse Period [2]. Do high levels of CO2 in the past contradict the warming effect of CO2 [3]? There are also other drivers for climate besides CO2. Life on earth have enjoyed unparallelled stability for past 10K years [4], so have no historical frame of reference for what happens if temperature breaks free from this zone. Extinction events on earth for past 300 million years are associated with CO2 concentrations above 900 ppm [5], page 8. [1] https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/gl_gr.html https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/gl_gr.html [2] https://www.dartmouth.edu/press-releases/carbon-dioxide-levels-lower-101217.html https://www.dartmouth.edu/press-releases/carbon-dioxide-leve... [3] https://skepticalscience.com/co2-higher-in-past-intermediate.htm https://skepticalscience.com/co2-higher-in-past-intermediate... [4] https://earth.org/data_visualization/a-brief-history-of-co2/ https://earth.org/data_visualization/a-brief-history-of-co2/ [5] http://burro.case.edu/Academics/USNA229/impactfromthedeep.pdf http://burro.case.edu/Academics/USNA229/impactfromthedeep.pd... Where this gets complicated is wether earth is due another ice age or not as well.

uncoder0 5y ago
So number [2] does not reference the same time period the referenced time period in your article is 1/2 the concentrations from 250-300m years ago. There is no disputing the numbers from 200-300m years ago as far as I can tell. [4] is the same graph I looked at. [3] Is not something I even tried to suggest. [5] is obvious and well known in this area of research. I asked a couple specific questions only response [1] addresses them partially. I'm not saying the planet isn't getting hotter by any means. I was asking if I had the periods/eras correct and the CO2 levels so I could appropriately create a frame of reference.
imtringued 5y ago
>Do high levels of CO2 in the past contradict the warming effect of CO2 [3]? There are also other drivers for climate besides CO2. The sun gets hotter over the course of millions of years as it is inching closer to death. However we are talking about millions of years, not the last 200 years. CO2 levels on earth fall and we end up maintaining roughly the same temperatures. If we reach record CO2 levels we are also going hit record temperatures. When I was still in high school I got fooled by so many articles talking about how we are in or entering a solar minimum and how it is about to get colder. What a joke. If the heating effect of human activity is enough to outdo a solar minimum we know it's human made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjgCaF9BGUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjgCaF9BGUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBF6F4Bi6Sg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBF6F4Bi6Sg

by loopz 5y ago

uncoder0 5y ago

So number [2] does not reference the same time period the referenced time period in your article is 1/2 the concentrations from 250-300m years ago. There is no disputing the numbers from 200-300m years ago as far as I can tell. [4] is the same graph I looked at. [3] Is not something I even tried to suggest. [5] is obvious and well known in this area of research. I asked a couple specific questions only response [1] addresses them partially. I'm not saying the planet isn't getting hotter by any means. I was asking if I had the periods/eras correct and the CO2 levels so I could appropriately create a frame of reference.

imtringued 5y ago

>Do high levels of CO2 in the past contradict the warming effect of CO2 [3]? There are also other drivers for climate besides CO2. The sun gets hotter over the course of millions of years as it is inching closer to death. However we are talking about millions of years, not the last 200 years. CO2 levels on earth fall and we end up maintaining roughly the same temperatures. If we reach record CO2 levels we are also going hit record temperatures. When I was still in high school I got fooled by so many articles talking about how we are in or entering a solar minimum and how it is about to get colder. What a joke. If the heating effect of human activity is enough to outdo a solar minimum we know it's human made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjgCaF9BGUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjgCaF9BGUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBF6F4Bi6Sg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBF6F4Bi6Sg