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> we produce nothing of intrinsic value Idk about that. You could say the same about a farmer or a banker or a teacher etc. Even the guys who build the Empire

> we produce nothing of intrinsic value Idk about that. You could say the same about a farmer or a banker or a teacher etc. Even the guys who build the Empire State building - there were probably hundreds of them, each only building a small part - and someday that will get lost in time also. “Intrinsic value” is whatever you define it to be. I guess if you’re working for some ad-sales-management company making software for other big companies, then you probably don’t think you’re making much intrinsic value. But my philosophy is, just try to make the world a slightly better place to live in when you leave. And even a small library or project may help others working on bigger projects, which influence bigger projects, which cause real change.

samstave 5y ago
>>“Intrinsic value” is whatever you define it to be. The guy who produces one tomato is worth more than the entire team who produces, say a mobile DLC/Gambling/betting game. CMV
- matkoniecz 5y ago
  Gambling game is of negative value so it is easy to beat that :)
pjerem 5y ago
> we produce nothing of intrinsic value Idk about that. You could say the same about a farmer or a banker or a teacher etc. Absolutely not. None of these professionals are ever working on superfluous projects of unknown worth to the society. In fact, their worth to the society is immediate and totally tangible: you couldn’t eat without the farmer’s work, you wouldn’t have a house without the banker, and you would be dumb without the teacher. However for most software projects, you would have a hard time to define their positive contribution to the society. Not saying useful and positive software doesn’t exists : there are plenty of those. But they are a visible minority in a sea of unknown, buggy, driven by bankable MVPs rather than useful and well crafted user centered software.
- cutler 5y ago
  "Wouldn't have a house without the banker". In some societies this is/was called usury - the opposite of intrinsic value. Banks leech value instead of creating any.

samstave 5y ago

>>“Intrinsic value” is whatever you define it to be. The guy who produces one tomato is worth more than the entire team who produces, say a mobile DLC/Gambling/betting game. CMV

matkoniecz 5y ago
Gambling game is of negative value so it is easy to beat that :)

pjerem 5y ago

> we produce nothing of intrinsic value Idk about that. You could say the same about a farmer or a banker or a teacher etc. Absolutely not. None of these professionals are ever working on superfluous projects of unknown worth to the society. In fact, their worth to the society is immediate and totally tangible: you couldn’t eat without the farmer’s work, you wouldn’t have a house without the banker, and you would be dumb without the teacher. However for most software projects, you would have a hard time to define their positive contribution to the society. Not saying useful and positive software doesn’t exists : there are plenty of those. But they are a visible minority in a sea of unknown, buggy, driven by bankable MVPs rather than useful and well crafted user centered software.

cutler 5y ago
"Wouldn't have a house without the banker". In some societies this is/was called usury - the opposite of intrinsic value. Banks leech value instead of creating any.