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The art of asking nicely
- etaioinshrdlu 5y agoI played around with these notebooks a while back, and wondered what you get if you jointly optimize for several different prompts. Has anyone tried this? (Or is this what the article is about?)
- kaoD 5y agoVQGAN+CLIP seem to have this dream-like quality where they generate images that are evocative of your prompts but don't actually picture them. I find it fascinating because in some cases it's not as obvious as "lump of white fluffy matter" = "sheep" but it still manages to evoke the prompt into our brains. I'll sometimes get an unrecognizable blob but quickly asking my SO "what is this?" she will get it... unless she consciously looks at it! Fascinating.
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- meowface 5y ago>quickly asking my SO "what is this?" she will get it... unless she consciously looks at it! It does make you wonder about hypothetical artificial neural network-like "subconscious" layers and how "more conscious" prefrontal cortex layers potentially adjust predictions and perceptions based on their inputs. (Probably a convenient "just-so" "clockwork universe"-esque narrative unsupported by neuroscience research, though.)
- kortex 5y agoIt's definitely "injective but not bijective" or something like that. Like I look at the prompt "sheep grazing on a hillside by tim burton". I look at the pic. Brain goes, "yup, that checks out". You wouldn't necessarily derive the domain from the range (preimage attack), but I can readily say, "if I fell asleep after watching Wallace and Gromit - Close Shave, and Nightmare Before Christmas, this is what I would dream".
- bentcorner 5y agoGAN Theft Auto also had a similar dream-like quality, especially with anything involving collisions (cars and how "big" the road was). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udPY5rQVoW0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udPY5rQVoW0
- napier 5y agoPrompt design / learning how to talk to and communicate effectively with AIs is going to be the next decade’s programming superpower. As an aside, are there any good approaches for producing this kind of generative art on a CPU only system that lacks a GPU?
- atupis 5y agoIt is alreay thing, I mean it is not once or twice when people have watced in awe when I google some obscure thing.
- splittingTimes 5y agoThis is the precursor of how to talk to and configure a holodeck program.
- telesilla 5y agoJust yesterday I was asked if I was worried about losing my job because of AI and I smugly replied that us programmers will be needed even more, as interpreters. This is an excellent article as explanation I'll be sharing!
- mirekrusin 5y agoIf you're still seeing people flipping burgers, you should be safe for at least a decade.
- prasenjit_pro 5y agoBang on target! It's gonna take more than a decade if you count from flipping burgers era because there a downstream ongoing. Upstream will take more.
- mirekrusin 5y agoAnother perspective may be - similar to how people were saying the post will go bust when internet came in with email etc. - but it turned out to be the opposite. Maybe intelligence will simply become commoditized and programming/creating things with it will require even more programmers.
- 0xcoffee 5y agoI didn't realize how clever the title was until I finished reading the article. Love it
- mineshkumar 5y agoWhat’s it mean?
- kortex 5y agoI interpret it to mean "adding lots of superfluous adjectives makes the outcome better".
- prasenjit_pro 5y agoOr it may be that the words connect everyone in their own domain. If a marketer reads it's kinda looks like a pitch, if a programmer reads it's kinda client, if a husband reads its like way to ask his wife, so on and so forth, Cleaver use of words.
- satori99 5y agoMy city is in covid lockdown right now so I have been passing some of the time playing with these notebooks. It is oddly addictive. https://photos.app.goo.gl/t41uLs3Wogmrgn887 https://photos.app.goo.gl/t41uLs3Wogmrgn887
- fho 5y agoDefinitely not a gun-nerd ... but I got a laugh out of the Dyson AR-15 :-)
- yosito 5y agoFor those who only read the comments first, this article is about writing effective prompts for AI image generation
- qwertox 5y agoWhy effective? This is more of an exploration.
- monktastic1 5y agoNote that the author indeed asks: "But the most effective prompt? In terms of producing a realistic but dramatically lit landscape with recognizable mountains and hills and (okay not sheep)?"
- himoacs 5y agoYou, sir, are doing God's work.
- KingOfCoders 5y ago“Would you kindly'… Powerful phrase. Familiar phrase?”
- spinningarrow 5y ago@dang: would it be possible to add sub domains for ghost.io (similar to github.io) in the parens after the title?
- mimsee 5y agoIs there some reason all subdomains couldn't be shown? Maybe with the exclusion for www.
- Imagenuity 5y agosecond this idea
- lifthrasiir 5y agoMore generally, it seems that any domain on the Public Suffix List [1] should be shown with a third-level domain (or possibly more). [1] https://publicsuffix.org/ https://publicsuffix.org/
- hlasdjlfhalwjk 5y agoI wasn't aware, such a list existed. Thanks for the link!
- lifthrasiir 5y agoYou can even submit your domain to the list [1]! This is useful when your domain has user-alloted subdomains and you want to enforce a stronger subdomain isolation. Ghost.io for example is there because the Ghost Foundation has sent a submission. [1] https://publicsuffix.org/submit/ https://publicsuffix.org/submit/
- runnerup 5y agoThese are the kind of comments that make me click through to the "favorite" feature in HN so that I can find them for reference later. Thanks for your effort to share this.
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- kevin_young 5y agoI've asked my son (13) nicely to stop playing games but he just won't listen. I even tried to ground him yesterday but he easily overpowered me and threatened me. I don't know what to do. I fear he will only get stronger and more defiant and something bad will happen to me.
- masswerk 5y agoI'm kind of fascinated how internet hype speech is taking over categories of image representation and art styles. [filed under: "ultra cool comment trending as a meme on reddit" ;-) ]
- menzoic 5y agoThe title is misleading
- napier 5y agoThat’s a bit strong. It’s a bit cryptic maybe..
- wccrawford 5y agoI honestly thought it would be about not being an asshole to people doing their jobs, and instead how much better asking nicely is. Both for treating them as people, but also for getting what you want. So I'd say it's pretty misleading. But with the top comment making it clear what the context is, I'm fine with it after all.
- seedless-sensat 5y agoHN loves contextless titles, I'm not sure why really
- tobltobs 5y agoHN just prefers the original title to avoid clickbait. The drawback is that sometimes context gets lost. On the bright side this sometimes will make you discover interesting articles which you wouldn't have checked out otherwise.
- square_usual 5y agoIt provokes curiosity, I guess. It's like good ol' clickbait in that regard: ask a question with the promise of an answer, except the question is usually not explicit, just assumed by the user. Every time I see a contextless title I wonder "Hmm, what could this be about?" and click.
- prasenjit_pro 5y agoPhilosophic words have been a part of programmers life sometimes but not misleading. Go in depth and you would get the meaning. I must say it is cleaver use of words.
- voiper1 5y agoThe related blog entry "AI doesn't understand scale" is hilarious: https://ai-weirdness.ghost.io/ai-doesnt-understand-scale/ https://ai-weirdness.ghost.io/ai-doesnt-understand-scale/
- sooheon 5y agoThe fork response was genuinely hilarious.
- ourcat 5y agoLoving "a herd of sheep grazing on a lush green hillside by tim burton".
- mabbo 5y agoThe infancy period of this technology is fascinating. Think about computer graphics 15 years ago. Beowulf came out in 2007, and was developed in the preceding years- let's call it 15+ years old. And it was right there in the uncanny valley where it didn't look real, but it looks realistic. It was interesting visually, but my brain told me "this isn't correct". And now some modern game engines are doing more realistic rendering than that in real-time. Now look at these generative models. Some state of the art ones with humans helping are pretty convincing, but it's slow work. The more general ones like these are making these wonderfully interesting images that our brains immediately say "That's not correct". But where will this technology be in another 15 years? I think the possibilities for entertainment are really interesting. Imagine a D&D game where the GM is vocally telling the AI what to generate, then making small tweaks, and the players are seeing the results.
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- yboris 5y agoHere's a video of an "infinite scroll" depiction of a poem using this technology: https://twitter.com/mewo2/status/1414649438581268486 https://twitter.com/mewo2/status/1414649438581268486 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbn1aJuarIU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbn1aJuarIU
- nazrulmum10 5y agoSuach a nice work
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- Delowar776 5y agoSuch a good work, love it
- oceanofsolaris 5y agoThe underlying problem these elaborate prompts seem to solve is that the internet contains many pictures, few of which look very beautiful. If you look at all internet pictures of sheep, many of them will not be very exciting and depict a low contrast sheep in a foggy landscape. So to get a picture with strong saturation and clear lines, it helps to put text there that is usually associated with pictures that have these ... like "HD wallpaper" or "made with unreal engine". Most "wallpapers" might be of dubious artistic quality, but muted colors and a lack of saturation will generally not be their problem. This is of course not the only problem with the model. It doesn't even produce a clear image of a sheep .... but that will probably get better with larger models and more training. Similarly it doesn't seem to have a sense of overall composition and tends towards fractal or tiling-like images. But those problems are probably orthogonal to the fact that the model doesn't per se try to make good pictures ... just average ones for the description you give it.
- 1MachineElf 5y agoFor the age we're living in, these desktop wallpapers are an appropriate clap-back to the famous Windows XP "Bliss" wallpaper.