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> And to put the nail in big tech's coffin, congress should pass a law forbidding the sharing of any personal information on any resident of the US for any comm
by qeternity 5y ago
> And to put the nail in big tech's coffin, congress should pass a law forbidding the sharing of any personal information on any resident of the US for any commercial reason whatsoever.
At this point, a huge number (majority?) of Facebook et al users know what Facebook are doing. They value their own data less than Facebook do and are happy to trade it in return for free social media service. You may not like it, but free people should be able to engage in a transaction if it’s not infringing on other peoples’ rights.
I’m not sure why you would know what’s better for them than they would.
- jeffreygoesto 5y agoIt is infringing other's peoples rights. Shadow profiles are and even if you paid for subscriptions everywhere in the net, you could not get away untracked and being targeted for ads you neither want nor need.
- qeternity 5y agoI’m not saying I agree with it, but what rights are being violated by shadow profiles?
- Mountain_Skies 5y agoFacebook shares lots of data about people who have never signed up for a Facebook account. Everyone is a Facebook "user" whether they want to be or not.
- Supermancho 5y ago> Facebook shares lots of data about people who have never signed up for a Facebook account. Everyone is a Facebook "user" whether they want to be or not. Same with Twitch/AMZ, YouTube/GOOG, Target, Wall Street Journal, etc. It's basically the state of digital advertising today, which is not remotely limited to or monopolized by FB. I've worked on the adservers, across multiple companies, for over 15 years now.
- qeternity 5y agoWell, I guess this makes sense because you can be a Facebook user without an account…
- laurent92 5y agoSome people buy an iPhone just because Apple imposes draconian rules on Facebook. People do put a price on privacy, thousands of dollars probably. When you reduce the value of interconnecting people to a linear scale, it’s unfair. How much value do you put on a friendship? How much value do you extract from belonging to a Facebook group? It’s probably a million dollars per person. It doesn’t mean the privacy part isn’t extracted by coercion, taking friendships as hostage, threatening to remove you from participation to a lot of the social life if you revoke your Facebook account.
- qeternity 5y ago> thousands of dollars probably. > How much value do you extract from belonging to a Facebook group? It’s probably a million dollars per person. No idea what you’re on about. The average person doesn’t buy Apple products, they have a small percentage of market share. You’re just throwing absurd numbers around. You’ve argued my point: people value socialization (millions, according to you) more than they value privacy (mere thousands, again according to you). Nobody forces anybody to use Facebook. Yet billions use it. It boggles my mind when people feel they should dictate other people’s personal choices.
- tomschlick 5y agoNit: Apple has 52% of the US mobile market share: https://www.statista.com/statistics/266572/market-share-held-by-smartphone-platforms-in-the-united-states/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/266572/market-share-held...
- qeternity 5y agoAnd has about 15% market share globally…
- tomschlick 5y agoThis entire thread is about the US taking action. Global market share doesn’t matter in this case.
- jbluepolarbear 5y agoSource because I’m pretty sure that’s not true. If that was true GDPR wouldn’t exist in the EU. California has CCPA in the works which is similar/same. People don’t like how big tech is using their data and actions are being done to counter it.