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Does it support Kerberos authentication?

by foodstances 5y ago

leetrout 5y ago
It’s like they didn’t even Google the name first.
- marcosdumay 5y ago
  It's surprising that anybody working on something related to security and computers would have to Google that name. But yeah, goes to show that Windows is not absolutely omnipresent.
  - natch 5y ago
    I don’t follow the Windows reference since my understanding was that Kerberos (the authentication protocol and associated project and software) is not platform specific, and also works on UNIX and macOS and other systems where it’s implemented for that matter. Did you think Kerberos was only on Windows?
    - marcosdumay 5y ago
      It's not platform specific, but everything on Windows uses it, while on other platforms it's a decision people have to make (and often decide for something else, because they don't understand kerberos and it's not trivial to setup). Thus, if you haven't heard of it, you are not on Windows.
      - natch 5y ago
        Where I’ve used it, it was not a decision I had to make (OS X, UNIX). It was a decision made by the IT departments at my organizations. So I’ve most certainly heard of it. No Windows anywhere in the picture. But I get what you are saying, you’re talking about people who have not heard of it.
spijdar 5y ago
To add on to this -- the about page acknowledges how "many are confused" about the name but effectively brushes it off because "kerberos is a good name", then "it's not actually kerberos, but kerberos.io", followed by "it's a mouthful so we'll just say kerberos" (and the HN submission just says kerberos) I feel like the name really might be an impediment to the project. Not that people can't ever re-use names, but this really feels like a pointless impediment to discoverability.
- rjzzleep 5y ago
  It actually is a really good name. But yeah, I had the same confusion.
  - vhodges 5y ago
    A better name for a multi-headed security system would be Cerberus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus
    - rjzzleep 5y ago
      That might be something they would be willing to change their name to. It's also a commonly used name although probably nowhere near as bad to google as Kerberus.
    - srswtf123 5y ago
      I think Siemans has that under the Cerberus Pyrotronics brand.
    - pjc50 5y ago
      Same dog, different language.
      - wyager 5y ago
        It’s pronounced about the same in either case. “Cerberus” in Latin is pronounced “Kerberus”, just like “cent” is actually pronounced “Kent”.
daniellarusso 5y ago
Well done.
ulzeraj 5y ago
I had a very similar moment a few months ago when I found out there is some kind of docker management UI named Heimdall, which is the name of another Kerberos implementation.
quickthrower2 5y ago
k6s? Maybe!

Does it support Kerberos authentication?

leetrout 5y ago

It’s like they didn’t even Google the name first.

marcosdumay 5y ago
It's surprising that anybody working on something related to security and computers would have to Google that name. But yeah, goes to show that Windows is not absolutely omnipresent.
- natch 5y ago
  I don’t follow the Windows reference since my understanding was that Kerberos (the authentication protocol and associated project and software) is not platform specific, and also works on UNIX and macOS and other systems where it’s implemented for that matter. Did you think Kerberos was only on Windows?
  - marcosdumay 5y ago
    It's not platform specific, but everything on Windows uses it, while on other platforms it's a decision people have to make (and often decide for something else, because they don't understand kerberos and it's not trivial to setup). Thus, if you haven't heard of it, you are not on Windows.
    - natch 5y ago
      Where I’ve used it, it was not a decision I had to make (OS X, UNIX). It was a decision made by the IT departments at my organizations. So I’ve most certainly heard of it. No Windows anywhere in the picture. But I get what you are saying, you’re talking about people who have not heard of it.

spijdar 5y ago

To add on to this -- the about page acknowledges how "many are confused" about the name but effectively brushes it off because "kerberos is a good name", then "it's not actually kerberos, but kerberos.io", followed by "it's a mouthful so we'll just say kerberos" (and the HN submission just says kerberos) I feel like the name really might be an impediment to the project. Not that people can't ever re-use names, but this really feels like a pointless impediment to discoverability.

rjzzleep 5y ago
It actually is a really good name. But yeah, I had the same confusion.
- vhodges 5y ago
  A better name for a multi-headed security system would be Cerberus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus
  - rjzzleep 5y ago
    That might be something they would be willing to change their name to. It's also a commonly used name although probably nowhere near as bad to google as Kerberus.
  - srswtf123 5y ago
    I think Siemans has that under the Cerberus Pyrotronics brand.
  - pjc50 5y ago
    Same dog, different language.
    - wyager 5y ago
      It’s pronounced about the same in either case. “Cerberus” in Latin is pronounced “Kerberus”, just like “cent” is actually pronounced “Kent”.

daniellarusso 5y ago

Well done.

ulzeraj 5y ago

I had a very similar moment a few months ago when I found out there is some kind of docker management UI named Heimdall, which is the name of another Kerberos implementation.

quickthrower2 5y ago

k6s? Maybe!