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Google maps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apple maps here in Europe especially for medium sized cities (in big cities apple works fine but still a lot worse then google). F
by komuher 5y ago
Google maps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apple maps here in Europe especially for medium sized cities (in big cities apple works fine but still a lot worse then google).
For me it seems like fair exchange to give some data, for free and very good service that have no real competition :)
- jbluepolarbear 5y agoI switched to Apple Maps a couple years ago and it’s been much better for me around the US; especially, Denver and Portland areas. Google maps still has a lot of issues with navigating around Portland.
- cassianoleal 5y agoIn London I find Apple Maps superior to Google Maps in almost every way. Apple's cycling routing is miles ahead of Google's.
- madeofpalk 5y agoI was very happy when Apple "finally" added cycling directions in London. That was the only reason why I used Google Maps. Apple does give me some funky directions through Victoria Park, though I'm always surprised when any map service can route through parks somewhat well.
- saurik 5y agoWhy did you switch?
- sbuk 5y ago> I was very happy when Apple "finally" added cycling directions in London. That was the only reason why I used Google Maps.
- saurik 5y agoYes: I absolutely understood the catalyst, but not the reason. I will rephrase my question: why did you want to switch? Is that less confusing? The person I am responding to seemed eager to leave Google Maps, but couldn't because of one critical feature; once that critical feature was there, removing the reason they had not to switch... but, there still had to be some remaining reason why the person switched: a reason that had caused them to be waiting to switch this whole time (and while I have some ideas as to what that reason might be, it isn't at all obvious which one and I didn't want to bias the answer by suggesting any). Is this really such a strange concept? :(
- benhurmarcel 5y agoPersonally I prefer using Apple Maps when possible because the app is a lot more fluid, it has a dark mode, and it feels better about privacy.
- madeofpalk 5y ago> seemed eager to leave Google Maps, but couldn't because of one critical feature I never wanted to use Google Maps, but had to due to the feature. Using "Apple Maps" was the default preferred position. I think Apple Maps looks better and is easier to use than Google Maps. I especially dislike the Google Maps turn by turn directions interface.
- komuher 5y agoGood for you one mega-city in Europe* got proper apple treatment after 10 years lets wait 20 more years for other monster cities, and then they can maybe add some cities under a 10 million population :D
- tshaddox 5y agoWhat’s the other option? Google is the only internet map ever? Or no other internet map can ever release anything until they have perfect global coverage?
- folli 5y agoHow about OSM?
- incone123 5y agoLove osm and osmand, but if I'm travelling in town then I go to Google map for real time traffic and public transit.
- extra88 5y agoWhat is a good iOS app for turn-by-turn directions (driving, biking, walking, public transit) that uses OpenStreetMap data?
- distances 5y agoOrganic Maps is IMHO the most usable OSM app for Android. It's available also for iOS, no idea if it's 1-to-1 but worth giving it a try.
- extra88 5y agoIt’s in the store. It touts working offline, do you have save map data for an area first or can you use it the same way as other map apps? I’ve used Google Maps’ offline saving feature when traveling internationally and where cell service is poor or absent. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/organic-maps/id1567437057 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/organic-maps/id1567437057
- tpush 5y agoApple Maps tends to be better in English speaking countries, or otherwise where there's a lot of iPhones. Google Maps is almost universally better anywhere else.
- woadwarrior01 5y agoSame in Dublin, Ireland. Here, the quality of Apple Maps improved significantly about a year ago.
- cianmm 5y agoTheir shop/restaurant opening times are still totally useless though. I live in Stoneybatter (next effectively 15 min walk from the city centre for those not from Dublin) and I’d estimate that at least 1/3rd of the correct waypoints, opening times, and associated data in the area is from me slowly correcting stuff over the last few years.
- wrycoder 5y agoFor restaurants, etc, I usually start with Yelp, which uses Apple Maps for navigation. I get the rest of the details from Yelp. (I’m in the US)
- vagrantJin 5y ago> In London I find Apple Maps superior to Google Maps in almost every way Google Maps is good in a backwater town in some country you've never heard of.
- cromwellian 5y agoYou mean like Karachi, Pakistan? Is that a backwater town to you?
- airpoint 5y agoFor cycling in London, in my experience: CityMapper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Maps >>>>> Google Maps
- andylynch 5y agoIt is, though one thing apple could improve is the feedback on errors- it’s routing thinks some major streets are one way here and that others aren’t which seems hard to fix.
- threatofrain 5y agoAre you able to plot multiple routes yet?
- Clampower 5y agoApple Maps doesn’t even have cycling navigation in Amsterdam lol. Literally unusable.
- Cockbrand 5y agoApple Maps doesn’t have cycling navigation anywhere, kinda strange for such a hip and (self proclaimed) environmentally conscious company. That renders it literally unusable anywhere, IMHO. [Edit: I just learned from another comment that Apple Maps _does_ have cycling directions at least in London, which I didn’t know about]
- andylynch 5y agoIt does as part of the ‘New Maps’ but very limited geographically unless you’re in China, California, or a few other cities- see https://www.apple.com/ios/feature-availability/#maps-cycling https://www.apple.com/ios/feature-availability/#maps-cycling
- bjohnson225 5y agoYeah, the data on Apple Maps is just not good enough here. The opening hours are frequently just wrong and can’t be trusted. Part of the reason for that is they use Yelp as a data source which is pretty much non-existent here. If I look at a popular local restaurant on Apple Maps (one which has thousands of reviews on both Google and TripAdvisor) then the opening hours are just wrong and seemingly pulled from Yelp where the restaurant is unclaimed and has just 9 reviews, all in English rather than the native language.
- ehsankia 5y agoThat's what many don't realize. Apple shows really fantastic and detailed 3D handcrafted maps each year at WWDC, then when you dig deeper, you find out that it's only for like 3 American cities and it's coming in a year... Basically useless for 99% of people. While Maps also has some discrepancies between cities and also different countries, in general it's a lot more consistent and features roll out more widely.
- pfranz 5y agoYou make it sound like Apple's efforts stop after announcing at WWDC. They do seem to be following through. The "new maps" were announced in 2018. They finished the continental US in January 2020 and since expanded to Canada, UK, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, and Italy with the most previous update released last month. Justin O'Beirne has followed Google/Apple maps in detail for years https://www.justinobeirne.com/ https://www.justinobeirne.com/ Forbes is an American business magazine and the author covers cover security and surveillance. So I wouldn't think his advice is meant for everyone.
- ehsankia 5y agoAnnounced WWDC 2018, arrived to the neighbor to the north 2.5 years later in December 2020, that's still quite a gap. But to be clear I was referring to the brand new detailed maps announced this year. > This will only be available in the San Francisco Bay Area, Los Angeles, New York, and London by the end of the year. So 4 cities 6 months after announcements.
- Semaphor 5y agoApple Maps is even worse? Because in my pop 200k city (somewhat big for Germany), OSM has far better information already.
- komuher 5y agoI think Germany is kinda special case in Europe (privacy laws etc) so google maps are probably a lot worse then in the rest of Europe :) [Never use google maps in Germany and i only visited Germany once in my live :)]
- FlyingSnake 5y agoOpenStreetMap >>>>>>>>> Google maps pretty much everywhere in EU (and RoW). I had better data in Harz, Bohemian Switzerland, Girona, Laos, Indian jungles etc which was way better than what Google provides. I would rather give my data to the qualitatively better option OSM than a controversial foreign firm that has questionable stance on user privacy.
- hk__2 5y agoReally? In my experience (Europe, mostly France/Italy), OpenStreetMap has a lot more details than Google on “long-term features”: roads, (hiking) paths, public toilets and fountains, etc; while Google is a lot better for POIs and restaurants/bars/museums/etc. On a given street, OSM will have the exact position of every tree but not so much about restaurants, while with GM you get their opening hours, ratings, menus, etc. Also, GM has public transports in a lot of cities.
- nextos 5y agoIn brand new neighbourhoods, I've also found OSM much better than Google Maps. E.g., lots of new developments in Cambridge were extremely well annotated whereas Google Maps didn't even have streetnames. This is super helpful when you are shopping for a new property.
- Aachen 5y agoIt's a rare opportunity when I get to map actual new roads. Usually it's filling in details like a trash bin here, a hedge there... roads are a much more important core feature. If you ever spot an unmapped neighborhood, just let me know! ;)
- _delirium 5y agoI spot them pretty often in the suburbs and exurbs of American cities. Those areas tend not to have as many active mappers as urban areas, so new subdivisions sometimes go a while before anyone maps them. Even then the first-cut mapping is usually someone not actually there just tracing from the Bing imagery.
- ginko 5y agoWell in the medium sized Norwegian city I live in Google maps doesn't have integration for the local public transport company, but Apple maps does. It's also significantly more responsive.
- philjohn 5y agoI tried Apple Maps again recently to drive to my daughter's school half an hour away. Despite it stating that the destination was indeed that school, I ended up in a residential street over 3 miles away. The carplay interface of it also wasn't as easy to follow as on Google Maps - which is surprising.
- hobr 5y agoThis happened to my wife and me just last night on the east coast of the UK. We followed directions to a named restaurant POI on Apple Maps and ended up in the middle of nowhere. Google Maps took us right to the door.
- gotbeans 5y agoI tried apple maps 2 years ago just because my android died and my wife pulled out her iphone. It was on a tahoe trip to ski, we happened to hit a snowstorm that day. Apple Maps decided to optimize the route and suggested a better route through a friggin road that passed rather close to a ski station (could even look the name up). We had a 4x4 and we were fine for the most part, but things got really bad when descending, started loosing traction and in one turn we actually slided and the snow stopped us on the edge of a cliff, not even exagerating. To be 100% clear, this is entirely our fault. We should have been with chains from the very beginning. But it's still shocking to me Apple Maps would suggest such a freaking route in the middle of a snow storm. Would Gmaps have done the same? Probably? Experience was bad enough to swear never open AMaps again.
- wrycoder 5y agoI’ve been using the Verizon map app for navigation for many years. Until recently, it’s been better for me than Google- it’s simplified, which is good when driving. But it’s not as reliable, in the sense that it sometimes recommends seasonal roads that are closed in the winter and even in the summer need AWD. I haven’t had any problem with Apple Maps, and I appreciate the integration with the Apple Watch. So, I’m using it more. Plus, the Yelp app connects to Apple Maps automatically. And I’m drifting away from Google, anyway.
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- smoldesu 5y agoYeah. I've used OpenStreetMap too, and while it does tend to be more accurate than Apple Maps, Google Maps is still unmatched. If you're on an iPhone, I'd recommend you switch to OpenStreetMaps at the very least.
- Angostura 5y agoIn the UK Apple Maps is my preferred choice for Navigation. Google wins over finding actual places, though Apple Maps is getting better fast> I also use Apple Maps driving in France with no problems.
- GeekyBear 5y ago>Google maps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apple maps here in Europe Apple has been creating their own map data and switching over to it for a while now. North America is complete and Europe is just starting with the UK finished and online and the Iberian Peninsula just coming online a month ago. https://www.justinobeirne.com/new-apple-maps-portugal-spain https://www.justinobeirne.com/new-apple-maps-portugal-spain