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So, like many of us, I did nothing, and let the virus burn itself out, which it managed to do by July 2020. Approx 1% deaths. Which I think is acceptable, to a

So, like many of us, I did nothing, and let the virus burn itself out, which it managed to do by July 2020. Approx 1% deaths. Which I think is acceptable, to allow 99% of the population to be able to return to a normal life so quickly. However, I'm not sure I understand the impact of the hospitals being over capacity? Does the model factor in extra deaths of people who can't get treated for non-Covid problems?

e12e 5y ago
> Approx 1% deaths. Which I think is acceptable, to allow 99% of the population to be able to return to a normal life so quickly. That's 100 million people dead, globally? And higher than UK deaths during WW2? https://topforeignstocks.com/2016/04/19/chart-world-war-ii-casualties-as-a-percentage-of-each-countrys-population/ https://topforeignstocks.com/2016/04/19/chart-world-war-ii-c...
- mattowen_uk 5y ago
  I have very low EQ, so yes, 100m globally (Actually 77.9m) vs 7.8 billion is totally acceptable (to me).
  - e12e 5y ago
    I'm not sure if "low EQ" is an explanation here - it would lead to indifference regarding deaths and "return to a normal life so quickly", no ? Or is "population" a proxy for "me"?
    - mattowen_uk 5y ago
      It's a stats thing, plus a factual thing. I personally don't care much about the wellbeing of others, but I do understand based on what I read, that for the majority of people, they don't like dying, lockdowns, or masks etc. So from that I can extrapolate that people want a 'return to a normal life quickly', as opposed to living with Covid over an extended time period. > Or is "population" à proxy for "me"? Absolutely not. I am totally fine with my splendid isolation. Most of the world could burn for all I care. The human race hasn't done me much favours in my life, so why should I care about people I don't even know? I also upvoted you, not because I like you, but because you took the time to engage in dialogue.
bigbaguette 5y ago
1% doesn't mean much like that but let's say for the UK alone that would amount to 680k deaths. Does that still sound acceptable? WWII death toll for the UK was 0.94% of the population.
- mattowen_uk 5y ago
  I have very low EQ, so yes, it's still acceptable (to me).

e12e 5y ago

> Approx 1% deaths. Which I think is acceptable, to allow 99% of the population to be able to return to a normal life so quickly. That's 100 million people dead, globally? And higher than UK deaths during WW2? https://topforeignstocks.com/2016/04/19/chart-world-war-ii-casualties-as-a-percentage-of-each-countrys-population/ https://topforeignstocks.com/2016/04/19/chart-world-war-ii-c...

mattowen_uk 5y ago
I have very low EQ, so yes, 100m globally (Actually 77.9m) vs 7.8 billion is totally acceptable (to me).
- e12e 5y ago
  I'm not sure if "low EQ" is an explanation here - it would lead to indifference regarding deaths and "return to a normal life so quickly", no ? Or is "population" a proxy for "me"?
  - mattowen_uk 5y ago
    It's a stats thing, plus a factual thing. I personally don't care much about the wellbeing of others, but I do understand based on what I read, that for the majority of people, they don't like dying, lockdowns, or masks etc. So from that I can extrapolate that people want a 'return to a normal life quickly', as opposed to living with Covid over an extended time period. > Or is "population" à proxy for "me"? Absolutely not. I am totally fine with my splendid isolation. Most of the world could burn for all I care. The human race hasn't done me much favours in my life, so why should I care about people I don't even know? I also upvoted you, not because I like you, but because you took the time to engage in dialogue.

bigbaguette 5y ago

1% doesn't mean much like that but let's say for the UK alone that would amount to 680k deaths. Does that still sound acceptable? WWII death toll for the UK was 0.94% of the population.

mattowen_uk 5y ago
I have very low EQ, so yes, it's still acceptable (to me).