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Based on the initial reactions I have a feeling this move can backfire. I don't believe most people with obsoleted hardware will switch to Linux - they'll be us

Based on the initial reactions I have a feeling this move can backfire. I don't believe most people with obsoleted hardware will switch to Linux - they'll be using Windows 10 for as long as they can, but I think some portion of them will consider a switch, at least on private machines. There is a limit of abuse you can tolerate.

einr 5y ago
There is a limit of abuse you can tolerate. This is the exact belief that lots of people had with regard to the Windows 7 -> 10 migration. Turns out, when people feel like they don't really have a choice, they will tolerate a lot of abuse. In fact, I'm not sure that there is a limit to the amount as long as the abusers make sure to boil the frog slowly.
alexmcc81 5y ago
I don't see it backfiring much to be honest. I see a lot of people keeping Windows 10 as long as possible... until Microsoft pushes an update to their machines with increasingly annoying messages until they accept - a strategy they have already deployed successfully. Defaults always win and laptop vendors will advertise Windows 11 as more secure. What choice do people have? If anything, this may push a few people to Apple. If you are going to give up all your privacy and pay for services, why not choose the company with the best hardware and integrated and polished UIs?
- HappySweeney 5y ago
  I don't know about the switch to Apple. First, there is the sticker shock, which is no small issue. Also, have you seen Windows users attempt to use a Mac? They enjoy it about as much as Mac users enjoy Windows.
  - alexmcc81 5y ago
    I used to think that too until I saw a family member dump Windows for Mac. iPhones are a hell of a gateway drug.
- handrous 5y ago
  > I don't see it backfiring much to be honest. I see a lot of people keeping Windows 10 as long as possible... until Microsoft pushes an update to their machines with increasingly annoying messages until they accept - a strategy they have already deployed successfully. At least they can't trick people into accepting upgrades this time.

einr 5y ago

There is a limit of abuse you can tolerate. This is the exact belief that lots of people had with regard to the Windows 7 -> 10 migration. Turns out, when people feel like they don't really have a choice, they will tolerate a lot of abuse. In fact, I'm not sure that there is a limit to the amount as long as the abusers make sure to boil the frog slowly.

alexmcc81 5y ago

I don't see it backfiring much to be honest. I see a lot of people keeping Windows 10 as long as possible... until Microsoft pushes an update to their machines with increasingly annoying messages until they accept - a strategy they have already deployed successfully. Defaults always win and laptop vendors will advertise Windows 11 as more secure. What choice do people have? If anything, this may push a few people to Apple. If you are going to give up all your privacy and pay for services, why not choose the company with the best hardware and integrated and polished UIs?

HappySweeney 5y ago
I don't know about the switch to Apple. First, there is the sticker shock, which is no small issue. Also, have you seen Windows users attempt to use a Mac? They enjoy it about as much as Mac users enjoy Windows.
- alexmcc81 5y ago
  I used to think that too until I saw a family member dump Windows for Mac. iPhones are a hell of a gateway drug.
handrous 5y ago
> I don't see it backfiring much to be honest. I see a lot of people keeping Windows 10 as long as possible... until Microsoft pushes an update to their machines with increasingly annoying messages until they accept - a strategy they have already deployed successfully. At least they can't trick people into accepting upgrades this time.