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The Ottomans, in holding together a multi-ethnic, multi-religous empire, frankly did something that seems more Roman than what the Byzantines did. Perhaps it f
by Ericson2314 5y ago
The Ottomans, in holding together a multi-ethnic, multi-religous empire, frankly did something that seems more Roman than what the Byzantines did.
Perhaps it fell in the 4th century, perhaps it fell in 1922.
- bpodgursky 5y agoGeographically at least that's more an extension of the Persian empire than Rome.
- Ericson2314 5y agoI disagree. Yes, Mesopotamia was usually controlled by the Parthians or Sassanids, but everywhere else was squarely Roman sphere of influence. And they never controlled Persia proper. That would be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_Iran. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_empires https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_empires for a fairly stable rough division of geography both before and after they period too.
- Ericson2314 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_antiquity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_antiquity I should say 3rd not 4th.
- AmericanChopper 5y agoPerhaps it fell in 1806 when the HRE was dissolved. But it wasn’t too long after then that Germany put the gang back together, later teaming up with the ottomans to have another crack at taking over the world. Was the fall of the Third Reich final chapter of the Roman Empire? Because it wasn’t too long after that event that another pan-European empire… sorry I mean Union emerged, politically dominated by the Holy Roman Empire… sorry I mean Germany.