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Always thought that someone should do something like this but for part-time marketing/comms/content jobs. I'm sure there are men in the following position too,

by prawn 5y ago

Always thought that someone should do something like this but for part-time marketing/comms/content jobs. I'm sure there are men in the following position too, but in my circles there are loads of 30-40yo women returning to work after maternity leave and looking for 2-3 days/week, often in marketing and related jobs. On the other side of the coin, there'd be a lot of small businesses sick of paying an agency but unable to justify a full-time role. Great match, IMO.

the_lonely_road 5y ago
This rarely works in fields where they hire full time salary employees. The reason being that the part time employee is still very expensive in a lot of fixed ‘per employee’ cost areas like hardware and licenses combined with the fact that the full time salary person is supposed to be available to get the job done even it that involves some overtime or just off hours work, things part time people are notorious for being unable to do (the reason they wanted part time in the first place, they are unavailable). This really narrows the scope of what employers are willing to hire part time for. Contractors are usually called instead.
- prawn 5y ago
  I'm talking small business. Hardware would be employee's own laptop. Software in those fields would be a pittance. If I was a bastard who wanted value for money, I'd hire those part-time mums. From what I've seen, they end up feeling obliged to work out of hours, so you'd effectively get 0.8 FTE while paying for 0.4-0.6. Roles like social media or content writing with scheduling involved instantly creeps into days off. Horrible approach from an employer, but like I said, if I was a bastard.
  - stevesearer 5y ago
    On the flip side, if you want the best part-time moms, pay well, supply the hardware, and be very flexible with when work hours happen.
- IshKebab 5y ago
  I think hardware and licenses are minimal costs in most businesses. Desk space is probably more. But I think even that isn't the real reason businesses like full time. It's probably cultural, not wanting to have to hire loads of people, and the difficulty of splitting some jobs between multiple people.
- uranium 5y ago
  It's worked for me for the past 10 years, part-time in engineering at Google, Makani, and Elemeno Health. Not wanting or being able to work a lot of hours doesn't necessarily mean not being flexible on hours. I've known a number of other part-time people at e.g. Google, and they were generally people I'd trust to get stuff done. Often they're time-management masters, due to necessity. Sure, there's more overhead per working hour. But there's also more mulling-things-over-in-the-shower time per working hour, so for creative work, one can be a lot more effective than you'd think. I also get more sleep and do all my appointments and errands in non-working hours, which improves my duty cycle and performance.
  - hndude 5y ago
    Were you working at an hourly rate at those companies? A salary at reduced hours/pay?
    - uranium 5y ago
      Salary at all of them. Alphabet has a standard mechanism to scale down your salary/bonus/vesting by your duty cycle, and you get full benefits if you're at at least 50%. For Elemeno it was a more custom arrangement.
ryry 5y ago
I suspect a fair few of the short to long-term contract positions I see advertised are to cover someone's parental leave. Content though definitely. I tend to see more short-term/part-time content creation positions than I do eng ones.

by prawn 5y ago

the_lonely_road 5y ago

This rarely works in fields where they hire full time salary employees. The reason being that the part time employee is still very expensive in a lot of fixed ‘per employee’ cost areas like hardware and licenses combined with the fact that the full time salary person is supposed to be available to get the job done even it that involves some overtime or just off hours work, things part time people are notorious for being unable to do (the reason they wanted part time in the first place, they are unavailable). This really narrows the scope of what employers are willing to hire part time for. Contractors are usually called instead.

prawn 5y ago
I'm talking small business. Hardware would be employee's own laptop. Software in those fields would be a pittance. If I was a bastard who wanted value for money, I'd hire those part-time mums. From what I've seen, they end up feeling obliged to work out of hours, so you'd effectively get 0.8 FTE while paying for 0.4-0.6. Roles like social media or content writing with scheduling involved instantly creeps into days off. Horrible approach from an employer, but like I said, if I was a bastard.
- stevesearer 5y ago
  On the flip side, if you want the best part-time moms, pay well, supply the hardware, and be very flexible with when work hours happen.
IshKebab 5y ago
I think hardware and licenses are minimal costs in most businesses. Desk space is probably more. But I think even that isn't the real reason businesses like full time. It's probably cultural, not wanting to have to hire loads of people, and the difficulty of splitting some jobs between multiple people.
uranium 5y ago
It's worked for me for the past 10 years, part-time in engineering at Google, Makani, and Elemeno Health. Not wanting or being able to work a lot of hours doesn't necessarily mean not being flexible on hours. I've known a number of other part-time people at e.g. Google, and they were generally people I'd trust to get stuff done. Often they're time-management masters, due to necessity. Sure, there's more overhead per working hour. But there's also more mulling-things-over-in-the-shower time per working hour, so for creative work, one can be a lot more effective than you'd think. I also get more sleep and do all my appointments and errands in non-working hours, which improves my duty cycle and performance.
- hndude 5y ago
  Were you working at an hourly rate at those companies? A salary at reduced hours/pay?
  - uranium 5y ago
    Salary at all of them. Alphabet has a standard mechanism to scale down your salary/bonus/vesting by your duty cycle, and you get full benefits if you're at at least 50%. For Elemeno it was a more custom arrangement.

ryry 5y ago

I suspect a fair few of the short to long-term contract positions I see advertised are to cover someone's parental leave. Content though definitely. I tend to see more short-term/part-time content creation positions than I do eng ones.