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yes we can. We live in a more northern environment, necessitating high CO2 emissions. Maybe not three times, but factor in the fact that Canadians are so distan

yes we can. We live in a more northern environment, necessitating high CO2 emissions. Maybe not three times, but factor in the fact that Canadians are so distantly spread out adds more weight to the necessity of Canadians having higher CO2 emissions per-capita than China. It's not apples to apples comparison.

brandon272 5y ago
Why is it China's problem that Canadians choose to live in a northern climate in a "distantly spread out" fashion? They could just as easily argue that their higher absolute CO2 emissions is "necessary" given their higher population. Every country can come up with a list of excuses as to why they should be entitled to produce CO2. At the end of the day we need to start with taking responsibility for our own emissions before we start telling other countries what to do.
- ipaddr 5y ago
  Canada could blow up or start producing 10 times per person it wouldn't matter. Look at the global numbers. China is the world's problem if you believe in climate change. https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/920/idt2/idt2/9cc12cf8-9b60-4f81-a55d-e76173741825/image/460 https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/920/idt2/idt2/9cc12cf8-9b60-4f...
  - brandon272 5y ago
    If Canada started producing 10x per person it would be the worlds second largest emitter. So yeah, it would matter. Pretending this is exclusively China’s problem when the rest of the world produces 3/4 of global emissions and a significant percentage of China’s emissions are a result of demand from the West, is simply nonsensical. We will not get out of this by focusing on spinning stats or trying to focus attention on per capita vs. absolute figures. This problem requires collective action.
    - fatsdomino001 5y ago
      50 cent army is quick and effective.
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brandon272 5y ago

Why is it China's problem that Canadians choose to live in a northern climate in a "distantly spread out" fashion? They could just as easily argue that their higher absolute CO2 emissions is "necessary" given their higher population. Every country can come up with a list of excuses as to why they should be entitled to produce CO2. At the end of the day we need to start with taking responsibility for our own emissions before we start telling other countries what to do.

ipaddr 5y ago
Canada could blow up or start producing 10 times per person it wouldn't matter. Look at the global numbers. China is the world's problem if you believe in climate change. https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/920/idt2/idt2/9cc12cf8-9b60-4f81-a55d-e76173741825/image/460 https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/920/idt2/idt2/9cc12cf8-9b60-4f...
- brandon272 5y ago
  If Canada started producing 10x per person it would be the worlds second largest emitter. So yeah, it would matter. Pretending this is exclusively China’s problem when the rest of the world produces 3/4 of global emissions and a significant percentage of China’s emissions are a result of demand from the West, is simply nonsensical. We will not get out of this by focusing on spinning stats or trying to focus attention on per capita vs. absolute figures. This problem requires collective action.
  - fatsdomino001 5y ago
    50 cent army is quick and effective.
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