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I have been an nvim user for the past few years now. I tried the whole modern nvim experience with Telescope, built in LSP and other Lua based extensions.. My c

by typon 5y ago

I have been an nvim user for the past few years now. I tried the whole modern nvim experience with Telescope, built in LSP and other Lua based extensions.. My conclusion is that my current setup with Ale, FZF + silver searcher, clangd/pylint and Deoplete is way faster, less buggy, albeit harder to setup. Also I'm just too old to learn the whole Lua API.. That's not something I hold against nvim, but it's a reflection on my laziness? I just want a good vim based experience and nvim did that for me. Btw, I paid for Onivim2. Was surprised by its snapiness but it's pretty useless as a working editor if you want equivalent features to nvim

fernandotakai 5y ago
>Btw, I paid for Onivim2. Was surprised by its snapiness but it's pretty useless as a working editor if you want equivalent features to nvim how would you compare to nvim? i tried vsc with a vim plugin and it was just... painful.
- typon 5y ago
  VS Code is an awful editor in general. I don't understand how it's so popular. Maybe it's just me but I don't like having 300ms lag between every action I perform on my editor. The vim emulation is a joke. Onivim's vim emulation is great.. Because it's literally using libvim. It's also very snappy. But thats where the advantages end.
  - thayne 5y ago
    > I don't like having 300ms lag between every action I perform on my editor Well if you are used to IDEs that also had that kind of lag...
  - Tehchops 5y ago
    > VS Code is an awful editor in general. I don't understand how it's so popular. Maybe it's just me but I don't like having 300ms lag between every action I perform on my editor. I'm surprised to hear this take. I've been a Doom Emacs user for a while, and while it was a bit more elbow grease to get it running on OSX, it was generally worth it for the speed/flexibility... until I ran into a non-trivially large Terraform code base. Slowed.to.a.crawl. On the other hand, even with multiple plugins, VSCode was(and continues to be) very snappy. Nearly instantaneous search and motion.
    - e12e 5y ago
      FYI the few times I've half-earnestly tried emacs+evil one of the reasons I've gone back to (neo)Vim is that emacs feels sluggish. I'm sure at least one time spacemacs was partly to blame (aka ALL THE THINGS activated/installed) - but it's definitely a difference in "feel" where (Neo)Vim feels closer to vi, and emacs feel closer to vs code/Atom.
      - b3n 5y ago
        Have you tried vanilla Emacs without any plugins (aka `emacs -Q`)? It's blazingly fast for me.
      - johntash 5y ago
        Doom emacs has a focus on speed that spacemacs just doesn't have. It's similar enough to spacemacs that it is easy to pick up if you got used to spacemacs at all. I'd recommend trying it out and see how it feels.
    - johntash 5y ago
      I spend well over half of my time in Terraform repos. I've also noticed doom emacs slowing down considerably whenever using the terraform-ls so I have lsp disabled for terraform. Did you ever spend any time debugging what the issue was by any chance? Even with lsp enabled, I wasn't very impressed with any of the features it gave me (emacs or even in vscode)
gen220 5y ago
FWIW, your "vim stack" is identical to mine. I also use a python lsp implementation, plugged in to ALE. I'd mirror your comments, and especially emphasize the speed aspect. (I think your ordering of comparisons matches the ranking of differences).

by typon 5y ago

fernandotakai 5y ago

>Btw, I paid for Onivim2. Was surprised by its snapiness but it's pretty useless as a working editor if you want equivalent features to nvim how would you compare to nvim? i tried vsc with a vim plugin and it was just... painful.

typon 5y ago
VS Code is an awful editor in general. I don't understand how it's so popular. Maybe it's just me but I don't like having 300ms lag between every action I perform on my editor. The vim emulation is a joke. Onivim's vim emulation is great.. Because it's literally using libvim. It's also very snappy. But thats where the advantages end.
- thayne 5y ago
  > I don't like having 300ms lag between every action I perform on my editor Well if you are used to IDEs that also had that kind of lag...
- Tehchops 5y ago
  > VS Code is an awful editor in general. I don't understand how it's so popular. Maybe it's just me but I don't like having 300ms lag between every action I perform on my editor. I'm surprised to hear this take. I've been a Doom Emacs user for a while, and while it was a bit more elbow grease to get it running on OSX, it was generally worth it for the speed/flexibility... until I ran into a non-trivially large Terraform code base. Slowed.to.a.crawl. On the other hand, even with multiple plugins, VSCode was(and continues to be) very snappy. Nearly instantaneous search and motion.
  - e12e 5y ago
    FYI the few times I've half-earnestly tried emacs+evil one of the reasons I've gone back to (neo)Vim is that emacs feels sluggish. I'm sure at least one time spacemacs was partly to blame (aka ALL THE THINGS activated/installed) - but it's definitely a difference in "feel" where (Neo)Vim feels closer to vi, and emacs feel closer to vs code/Atom.
    - b3n 5y ago
      Have you tried vanilla Emacs without any plugins (aka `emacs -Q`)? It's blazingly fast for me.
    - johntash 5y ago
      Doom emacs has a focus on speed that spacemacs just doesn't have. It's similar enough to spacemacs that it is easy to pick up if you got used to spacemacs at all. I'd recommend trying it out and see how it feels.
  - johntash 5y ago
    I spend well over half of my time in Terraform repos. I've also noticed doom emacs slowing down considerably whenever using the terraform-ls so I have lsp disabled for terraform. Did you ever spend any time debugging what the issue was by any chance? Even with lsp enabled, I wasn't very impressed with any of the features it gave me (emacs or even in vscode)

gen220 5y ago

FWIW, your "vim stack" is identical to mine. I also use a python lsp implementation, plugged in to ALE. I'd mirror your comments, and especially emphasize the speed aspect. (I think your ordering of comparisons matches the ranking of differences).