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Some Vaccinated People Are Dying of Covid-19. Why Scientists Aren’t Surprised

9 points by indigodaddy 5y ago

useful 5y ago
Serology tests are a thing for a lot of vaccines. You can get them from a doctor if you are traveling overseas to see if you need redo a vaccine. I'm not a doctor, but if you don't have any kind of immune response after 2 doses of pfizer/moderna. I'd strongly suggest that you ask about a serology/antibody test especially if you are older or have health conditions. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/serology-testing.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/serology-testi...
- copperx 5y ago
  You're misinformed. AFAIK, serology/antibody testing is useless to determine whether a COVID vaccine worked, because the vaccine makes antibodies that react to the spike protein, but the serologic test looks for the regular antibodies that you get after an infection. Two different things. For other vaccines, serologic tests can indeed make sense.
alexjplant 5y ago
Off-topic question: what’s up with this long-form two-sentence headline trend? I feel as though a decade ago this headline would be something like “COVID-19 deaths among vaccinated infrequent, still troubling”. It seems like headlines nowadays take the form of “Reported news presented as incontrovertible fact. Editorialized punchline and how you should feel about it.” For some reason that I can’t put my finger on this style of writing viscerally frustrates me (regardless of my feelings on the topic at hand - from what I see of this article, for instance, it’s an innocuous, straightforward account of vaccine efficacy). Am I the only one?
- _tom_ 5y ago
  It’s just hitting modern marketing requirements. In old Newspapers anything other than the headline didn’t sell the paper, so could be informational. Now the article headline determines click through rate and therefore revenues. So, you are understandably being annoyed by a shift from informational to click bait. But, ask yourself: which one would you click on?
  - gus_massa 5y ago
    Even worse title: "Best Covid-19 vaccines are only 90-95% effective, so some vaccinated people still die."
  - Proven 5y ago
    > But, ask yourself: which one would you click on? I'd click on the old school title if I was interested about what it has to say. Click bait titles I never click on unless I absolutely need information on that topic and there's nothing else in search engine results or other sources. In this case I'm only mildly interested, so I won't attempt to read the article. Fuck it.
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9 points by indigodaddy 5y ago

Serology tests are a thing for a lot of vaccines. You can get them from a doctor if you are traveling overseas to see if you need redo a vaccine. I'm not a doctor, but if you don't have any kind of immune response after 2 doses of pfizer/moderna. I'd strongly suggest that you ask about a serology/antibody test especially if you are older or have health conditions. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/serology-testing.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/serology-testi...

copperx 5y ago
You're misinformed. AFAIK, serology/antibody testing is useless to determine whether a COVID vaccine worked, because the vaccine makes antibodies that react to the spike protein, but the serologic test looks for the regular antibodies that you get after an infection. Two different things. For other vaccines, serologic tests can indeed make sense.

alexjplant 5y ago

Off-topic question: what’s up with this long-form two-sentence headline trend? I feel as though a decade ago this headline would be something like “COVID-19 deaths among vaccinated infrequent, still troubling”. It seems like headlines nowadays take the form of “Reported news presented as incontrovertible fact. Editorialized punchline and how you should feel about it.” For some reason that I can’t put my finger on this style of writing viscerally frustrates me (regardless of my feelings on the topic at hand - from what I see of this article, for instance, it’s an innocuous, straightforward account of vaccine efficacy). Am I the only one?

_tom_ 5y ago
It’s just hitting modern marketing requirements. In old Newspapers anything other than the headline didn’t sell the paper, so could be informational. Now the article headline determines click through rate and therefore revenues. So, you are understandably being annoyed by a shift from informational to click bait. But, ask yourself: which one would you click on?
- gus_massa 5y ago
  Even worse title: "Best Covid-19 vaccines are only 90-95% effective, so some vaccinated people still die."
- Proven 5y ago
  > But, ask yourself: which one would you click on? I'd click on the old school title if I was interested about what it has to say. Click bait titles I never click on unless I absolutely need information on that topic and there's nothing else in search engine results or other sources. In this case I'm only mildly interested, so I won't attempt to read the article. Fuck it.
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