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I think the distraction is against how disconnected reality is becoming from copyright/intellectual property regulations. It's still amazing to me that (US-cen

I think the distraction is against how disconnected reality is becoming from copyright/intellectual property regulations. It's still amazing to me that (US-centric context here), it's well established that instructions how to turn raw ingredients into a cake are not protectable but code that results in transforming one set of numbers into another are protectable. AI is just making the silliness of that distinction more obvious.

MadcapJake 5y ago
Code is not the same as a recipe. Recipes are more like specifications. They leave out the implementation. Code has structural and algorithmic details that just have no comparable concept in recipes.
- Supermancho 5y ago
  > Code has structural and algorithmic details that just have no comparable concept in recipes. Why do you think that? A compiler uses human readable code to create machine code, with arbitrary optimizations and choices.
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- rjbwork 5y ago
  >They leave out the implementation. Code has structural and algorithmic details that just have no comparable concept in recipes. That is really quite debatable in some contexts. Declarative languages like Prolog, SQL, etc. declare what they want and the system figures out how to produce it. Much like a recipe, really.
cmiga 5y ago
Humans are just sets of atoms, so protecting them is disconnected from reality? These reductionist arguments lead nowhere. Fortunately, IP lawyers -- including Microsoft's who are fiercely pro IP when it suits them -- think in a more humanistic way and consider the years of work of the IP creator. Food recipes are irrelevant; the often go back centuries and it's rather hard to identify individual creators. Not so in software.
- Supermancho 5y ago
  > Food recipes are irrelevant; the often go back centuries and it's rather hard to identify individual creators. That's not correct. Food recipes are created all the time and are attributed. From edible water bottles to impossible burgers, et al.
  - z3ncyberpunk 5y ago
    Okay, who invented the apple pie... you completely missed the point and then gave terrible examples of very modern "food" (your examples aren't even really food anyway)

MadcapJake 5y ago

Code is not the same as a recipe. Recipes are more like specifications. They leave out the implementation. Code has structural and algorithmic details that just have no comparable concept in recipes.

Supermancho 5y ago
> Code has structural and algorithmic details that just have no comparable concept in recipes. Why do you think that? A compiler uses human readable code to create machine code, with arbitrary optimizations and choices.
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rjbwork 5y ago
>They leave out the implementation. Code has structural and algorithmic details that just have no comparable concept in recipes. That is really quite debatable in some contexts. Declarative languages like Prolog, SQL, etc. declare what they want and the system figures out how to produce it. Much like a recipe, really.

cmiga 5y ago

Humans are just sets of atoms, so protecting them is disconnected from reality? These reductionist arguments lead nowhere. Fortunately, IP lawyers -- including Microsoft's who are fiercely pro IP when it suits them -- think in a more humanistic way and consider the years of work of the IP creator. Food recipes are irrelevant; the often go back centuries and it's rather hard to identify individual creators. Not so in software.

Supermancho 5y ago
> Food recipes are irrelevant; the often go back centuries and it's rather hard to identify individual creators. That's not correct. Food recipes are created all the time and are attributed. From edible water bottles to impossible burgers, et al.
- z3ncyberpunk 5y ago
  Okay, who invented the apple pie... you completely missed the point and then gave terrible examples of very modern "food" (your examples aren't even really food anyway)