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I dislike/hate facebook. I have no idea why anyone thinks they have a monopoly. I use social services just fine without FB services

laurent92 5y ago
If the lawsuit were in Brazil, it would be clear: It is impossible to access a majority of services without Whatsapp. Most phone numbers / chat services have no alternative except through Whatsapp, even in the administration.
- HatchedLake721 5y ago
  What kind of “majority of services”?
- LatteLazy 5y ago
  Until they start charging for WhatsApp that would still be totally legal.
- k__ 5y ago
  What does that mean? I never used WhatsApp for anything but chatting with my family
bogwog 5y ago
I haven't read any of the court documents, and even if I did I probably wouldn't understand most of it because I'm not a lawyer. But... Facebook has engaged in anti-competitive practices in the past and continues to do so today. I agree that just calling them a "monopoly" isn't very helpful, because they're a big company involved in many different markets. Most people hate Facebook nowadays, but their anti-competitive behavior is not one of the top 3 reasons (probably). I think if people focus on this single question: "Is <company> immune to competitive forces in <market>?", then the question of should we regulate/how should we regulate/etc becomes much easier to answer.
- gizmondo 5y ago
  Most people don't hate Facebook nowadays. Or did you mean to add "on HN and reddit"?
  - gbear605 5y ago
    Check out https://accountabletech.org/media/polling/ https://accountabletech.org/media/polling/ - the majority of American voters believe that Facebook does more harm than good.
nxpnsv 5y ago
Not using their platforms is a solution to many fb problems. But is there a solution using fb? A crowdsourced fb campain with ads targeted at ambivalent fb users urging them to leave the platform comes to mind.
- amelius 5y ago
  Change your profile pic into "FB is bad".
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laurent92 5y ago

If the lawsuit were in Brazil, it would be clear: It is impossible to access a majority of services without Whatsapp. Most phone numbers / chat services have no alternative except through Whatsapp, even in the administration.

HatchedLake721 5y ago
What kind of “majority of services”?
LatteLazy 5y ago
Until they start charging for WhatsApp that would still be totally legal.
k__ 5y ago
What does that mean? I never used WhatsApp for anything but chatting with my family

bogwog 5y ago

I haven't read any of the court documents, and even if I did I probably wouldn't understand most of it because I'm not a lawyer. But... Facebook has engaged in anti-competitive practices in the past and continues to do so today. I agree that just calling them a "monopoly" isn't very helpful, because they're a big company involved in many different markets. Most people hate Facebook nowadays, but their anti-competitive behavior is not one of the top 3 reasons (probably). I think if people focus on this single question: "Is <company> immune to competitive forces in <market>?", then the question of should we regulate/how should we regulate/etc becomes much easier to answer.

gizmondo 5y ago
Most people don't hate Facebook nowadays. Or did you mean to add "on HN and reddit"?
- gbear605 5y ago
  Check out https://accountabletech.org/media/polling/ https://accountabletech.org/media/polling/ - the majority of American voters believe that Facebook does more harm than good.

nxpnsv 5y ago

Not using their platforms is a solution to many fb problems. But is there a solution using fb? A crowdsourced fb campain with ads targeted at ambivalent fb users urging them to leave the platform comes to mind.

amelius 5y ago
Change your profile pic into "FB is bad".

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