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Energy is comparatively cheap in the US. As an example, average natural gas prices for consumers have recently gone up to around 0.3€/m³ [0]. In one of the chea
by markvdb 5y ago
Energy is comparatively cheap in the US. As an example, average natural gas prices for consumers have recently gone up to around 0.3€/m³ [0]. In one of the cheapest places in Europe, the Netherlands, itself a large natural gas supplier, it is about .79€/m³[1].
This does not encourage a culture of energy savings. Relevant experience just is not as deeply ingrained. Yet, if I may hope so.
Some examples, just concerning windows, unfortunately without references:
- One can still buy and legally install single pane windows in most of the US.
- A significant share of new windows in the US apparently still are double pane.
- New windows in the US are still often filled with air instead of specialised gases.
- Multi-chambered pvc windows are still being marketed as a tech innovation in some places in the US, while these are bog standard bottom line products even in the Baltic states.
- Try and ask your average window installer about air tightness seals and blower door tests.
[0] https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_pri_sum_a_EPG0_PRS_DMcf_m.htm https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_pri_sum_a_EPG0_PRS_DMcf_m.htm
[1] https://www.milieucentraal.nl/energie-besparen/inzicht-in-je-energierekening/energierekening/ https://www.milieucentraal.nl/energie-besparen/inzicht-in-je...
- Scoundreller 5y agoIf the US depended on something from Russia, I'm sure they'd be huge on conserving it too. I get NL currently exports more than it imports, it still means everyone else will pay a premium for EU-sourced gas, or wants it there as their supply.
- hef19898 5y agoNot that Europe ever had an issue with Russian gas deliveries, or Soviet ones back during the Cold War. Ever. Ukraine is different in that regard. And that has nothing to do with energy saving for stuff like heating.
- manmal 5y agoThere was a gas scare a few years back. I don’t remember the specifics, but essentially Russia threatened parts of Europe to go without gas for a while.
- fomine3 5y agoI'm sad from Japan to see your list because we have worse standards than US even though we don't have great energy source. Poor houses could be built by just lazy government. We still see single glass with stupid aluminum windows frames. It's really awful to use aluminum for insulation that also used for heat sink.
- markvdb 5y agoThank you for your interesting perspective. I had no idea.